Does it really take this long with DC10Plus???

[mshepley]

Hi, Not 100% sure what the correct settings should be for DC10PLus Card when converting captured MJPEG[16] (don't know what that is exactly is it anything like an MJPEG 1?) to AVI, or even whether I have to do this before using the TMPGEnc. Please be forgiving as I'm new to this. I use Windows 98 with an AMD (K6) CPU, an EIDE HDD of 13Gig and only 64MB Ram. I believe the time it is taking is tied up with my transfer rate and wonder what the correct setting should be?
Many thanks in advance.
Mshepley

[bertmartin]

Output to disk using the best setting, AVI, latest Indeo codec. This will allow you to encode with TMPGEnc for best results. Yes it takes several hours to render the AVI file. Also, don't be tempted to upgrade to Studio 7, since chances are very good it won't work for you. Its a total waste of $50 for a broken program. Stick with Studio 1.06. Also, always capture with the best setting. You have to use the MJPEG codec provided by Pinnacle to capture.

[mijman]

Also, the speed of encoding depends largely on the speed of your processor. It is NOT, however, related to the DC10+. I have a 1.4Ghz pentium, and my AVIs encode at about 4x the length of the clip, when making VCDs (considerably longer (around 6-7x) when making DVDs)

[mshepley]

Thanks very Much.
It's heartening to know I'm not on my own.
My main aim is to transfer my collection of old black n' white horror movies (real scratchy classics on VHS) to VCD. As many of them are just never shown anymore, or unavailable. There running times are generally about 70-80mins, so if all conditions are correct they should find themselves neatly on single discs.
Judging by everything I've read it seems it would be best to have a dedicated hard drive for the AVI files.
Thanks again. I'm sure many other questions will follow.

[mshepley]

Here's One...What is the latest Indeo Codec? I'm presently working with Indeo 5.4 I think it is, the standard one anyhow.

[bertmartin]

Go here:
http://www.ligos.com/index.phtml?pi=103&n1=products&n2=indeo&n3=download#downloads

Latest is 5.11

[mshepley]

Just to say thanks for the info. I've downloaded the Ligos codecs and when I finally have my CD writer for my birthday from my dear wife I will make a start.
I've also posted a query on the Capturing side of things re: DC10+ data rate etc. If you're feeling obliging maybe you could take a look.
All the very best.

[Massa]

Hello,
Maybe you can help me,
I've captured at 360x240 VHS and now I need to render.
When rendering at 360x240, the avi quality in media player is good.
When rendering at 480x480 or 640x480, the avi is terrible, lots of distortions.
Any clue?
Thanks

[mshepley]

Hi
Sounds like you are overdoing the video side of things and sacrificing audio quality. I have been told that there is no need to enlarge on 352 x 288 for PAL captures (352 x 240 NTSC) for VCD creation and after viewing on my standard tv I find this size adequate.
I capture using the AVI_IO programme (trial version available to download) and find this is much more versatile than the Pinnacle DC10+ programme and I lose very few frames now.
All the best,
Mshepley

[Massa]

Well,

I don't think I have audio problems, only video.
I want to render as SVCD later, so I need 480x480.
What I really don't understand is why higher resolution encoding brings lower quality avis.
Thanks

[Shannafey]

Thanks very Much.
It's heartening to know I'm not on my own.
My main aim is to transfer my collection of old black n' white horror movies (real scratchy classics on VHS) to VCD. As many of them are just never shown anymore, or unavailable. There running times are generally about 70-80mins, so if all conditions are correct they should find themselves neatly on single discs.
Judging by everything I've read it seems it would be best to have a dedicated hard drive for the AVI files.
Thanks again. I'm sure many other questions will follow.

Mshepley, I do exactly the same thing with my DC10+ card. I have been archiving all my old movies for a while. I don't understand while you have to convert them to another avi file. Here's what I do. To dump it in in the best quality, obviously you use the least compression, and I dump it in at 320 x 240. It is closer to the 352 x 240 vcd standard, takes less time to encode, and I haven't seen a difference when using 640 x 480. if you use 320 x 480, you have to de-interlace. Why bother? The quality difference is small. I dump in the segments, then I trim them in tmpgenc and render them. I do crop them a little, because of video edge noise in vhs tapes. I don't use anything but the normal quality setting, because I haven't seen a big difference in quality on the other settings. Then when I get the finished files, I use the mpeg tools feature in tmpgenc to join them together and use nero to make a vcd. I am sure others will debate some of my settings, but this is how I do it. Hope this helps.
SH

[Shannafey]

BTW, I have an old AMD K6-2/350 w/160mb ram. It takes almost 24 hours for me to render a 1 1/2 hour film in tmpgenc.