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    So, I recently backed up my Death Note DVD box set I bought to ISO with DVD Decrypter.

    What I want to do is slightly crop the top and bottom edges of the screen, and then re-author the ISO to DVD .vob files.

    Is there any program that will allow me to directly crop the main title and re-author the dvd all at once?
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    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
    So, I recently backed up my Death Note DVD box set I bought to ISO with DVD Decrypter.
    NOT a good idea. DVDDecrypter has not been updated in many years. It's quite possible your ISO's are messed up.

    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
    What I want to do is slightly crop the top and bottom edges of the screen
    Also not a good idea since you made ISO images of the discs. How are you going to edit an ISO image?

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    Is there any program that will allow me to directly crop the main title and re-author the dvd all at once
    No.
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    Originally Posted by hech54 View Post
    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
    So, I recently backed up my Death Note DVD box set I bought to ISO with DVD Decrypter.
    NOT a good idea. DVDDecrypter has not been updated in many years. It's quite possible your ISO's are messed up.
    Messed up in what way? DVDFab seems to handle them just fine.

    Also, what would you recommend as an alternative to DVD Decrypter?
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    @hech54,
    That's so totally not helpful. Pressed DVD's use all sorts of copy protection, from NONE at all to simple CSS to dummy cells to Cinavia to the latest combination such as is supposedly on Captain America. But I'm not just talking about historically. Even TODAY, there are some MAJOR titles that only use standard CSS.
    So certainly for titles such as these, there is nothing gained by using a newer decrypter, and nothing lost by using a tried-and-true app such as DVDDecrypter. Do you even know what is used on the titles the OP was referring to?

    Just because an app is older doesn't make it useless. Hell, I still use Macromedia's Fontographer v4.1, which was untouched for years (since '97-98) while it was bought by Adobe and then Fontlab (only in the last couple of years have they resurrected it as a Mac app). But even as it was, it ran fine on any system I used and was (and probably still is) literally the best of its class in font creation & editing/manipulation.

    So, PLEASE, stop dissing DVDDecrypter so much!
    Sure, if the encryption is new and difficult it often makes more sense to use AnyDVD, or DVDFab. But even then it's sometimes possible to do an ISO rip, with a subsequent movie-only extraction, even with "new, more complex" encryptions, using DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink. They're just GOOD TOOLS.

    It's easy to see if the ISOs are messed up - mount them and play them before burning. It's a good idea to do that anyway, even for items ripped by AnyDVD/DVDFab.
    If they work, they work. If not, you have alternatives...

    @Axmann8,
    It's possible by mounting the ISOs, and copying the contents to a folder, and extracting the main titles to MPEG, and performing the edit, and using IFOEdit, VOBEdit or similar to replace the original with the edited version.

    But should you?
    Think about it - you're going through all these steps AND losing quality because of the re-encoding due to the cropping (which, BTW, would require subsequent padding to remain compliant). I doubt if it's worth it. And there is NO app that does this all at once!
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    @hech54,
    That's so totally not helpful. Pressed DVD's use all sorts of copy protection, from NONE at all to simple CSS to dummy cells to Cinavia to the latest combination such as is supposedly on Captain America. But I'm not just talking about historically. Even TODAY, there are some MAJOR titles that only use standard CSS.
    So certainly for titles such as these, there is nothing gained by using a newer decrypter, and nothing lost by using a tried-and-true app such as DVDDecrypter. Do you even know what is used on the titles the OP was referring to?

    Just because an app is older doesn't make it useless. Hell, I still use Macromedia's Fontographer v4.1, which was untouched for years (since '97-98) while it was bought by Adobe and then Fontlab (only in the last couple of years have they resurrected it as a Mac app). But even as it was, it ran fine on any system I used and was (and probably still is) literally the best of its class in font creation & editing/manipulation.

    So, PLEASE, stop dissing DVDDecrypter so much!
    Sure, if the encryption is new and difficult it often makes more sense to use AnyDVD, or DVDFab. But even then it's sometimes possible to do an ISO rip, with a subsequent movie-only extraction, even with "new, more complex" encryptions, using DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink. They're just GOOD TOOLS.

    It's easy to see if the ISOs are messed up - mount them and play them before burning. It's a good idea to do that anyway, even for items ripped by AnyDVD/DVDFab.
    If they work, they work. If not, you have alternatives...

    @Axmann8,
    It's possible by mounting the ISOs, and copying the contents to a folder, and extracting the main titles to MPEG, and performing the edit, and using IFOEdit, VOBEdit or similar to replace the original with the edited version.

    But should you?
    Think about it - you're going through all these steps AND losing quality because of the re-encoding due to the cropping (which, BTW, would require subsequent padding to remain compliant). I doubt if it's worth it. And there is NO app that does this all at once!
    Thank you so much for your lengthy help. I really appreciate it.

    If not using my DVD images, there's still something I want to try that's not making sense to me.

    To begin with, the DVDs in question have a bright bar on the top of the screen near the letterbox. However, one release of the anime that I downloaded on the internet has the edges ever so cropped so that this annoying trait is eliminated altogether. These are .mkv files of the Anime in question (Death Note), and I've been trying to re-contain the files (dual-audio mkvs with h.264 and aac audio) to MP4 format (so I can play them on my Xbox 360), but when I remux the file with YAMB, etc. the framerate is too fast and the aspect ratio is wrong. I don't know whether MKVExtractGUI is just ignoring the file's metadata, or whether YAMB is compiling the files wrong?

    It's all so disasterous. All I want to do is play my anime (which I have bought) on my Xbox 360
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    Okay, that's not even close to the same as the "reauthoring dvds" that you mentioned in the original post...

    So, not counting that "bright strip at the top", which files look best on your PC? The DVDs or the DL'd MKVs?

    We'll work from there.

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    Okay, that's not even close to the same as the "reauthoring dvds" that you mentioned in the original post...
    No kidding! Nothing like misleading everyone and completely wasting their time so far. In any event, decrypting them as an ISO was pointless, whether making another DVD or encoding to h.264. And if Axmann8 really does intend to reencode for DVD, not only does it have to be cropped, but padded out (with black, most likely), to regain the correct resolution and aspect ratio. Just covering the offending parts with black (aka letterboxing) is probably the easiest solution. It'll still mean reencoding the entire thing, though.

    ...but when I remux the file with YAMB, etc. the framerate is too fast and the aspect ratio is wrong. I don't know whether MKVExtractGUI is just ignoring the file's metadata, or whether YAMB is compiling the files wrong?
    I'd suspect user error.
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    Okay, that's not even close to the same as the "reauthoring dvds" that you mentioned in the original post...

    So, not counting that "bright strip at the top", which files look best on your PC? The DVDs or the DL'd MKVs?

    We'll work from there.

    Scott
    I actually prefer the MKV files, since they're already taken from the DVD (at least I suspect that's the original source) with a good quality, relatively small filesize, and the cropped edges. The only problem the MKVs present is that they have a Variable Frame Rate, which makes simply re-containing the files a bit more difficult since I don't know how to use Haali Media Splitter's "VFR Helper Tool".

    Basically, I just want to be able to play the files on my Xbox 360 without the bright line at the top, so I suppose I'd prefer the simplest method to get there, be it through the DVDs or the MKVs.

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    Okay, that's not even close to the same as the "reauthoring dvds" that you mentioned in the original post...
    No kidding! Nothing like misleading everyone and completely wasting their time so far.
    That wasn't my intention, and you don't have to be so disrespectful.

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    I'd suspect user error.
    It's VFR, that's why YAMB didn't work. Not because I erred.
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    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
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    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
    So, I recently backed up my Death Note DVD box set I bought to ISO with DVD Decrypter.
    NOT a good idea. DVDDecrypter has not been updated in many years. It's quite possible your ISO's are messed up.
    Messed up in what way? DVDFab seems to handle them just fine.

    Also, what would you recommend as an alternative to DVD Decrypter?
    So you are ripping/decrypting twice with DVDDecrypter and DVDFab?
    The alternative to the outdated DVDDecrypter is DVDFab ....or it's free cousin DVDFabDecrypter.
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    @hech54,
    That's so totally not helpful. Pressed DVD's use all sorts of copy protection, from NONE at all to simple CSS to dummy cells to Cinavia to the latest combination such as is supposedly on Captain America. But I'm not just talking about historically. Even TODAY, there are some MAJOR titles that only use standard CSS.
    So certainly for titles such as these, there is nothing gained by using a newer decrypter, and nothing lost by using a tried-and-true app such as DVDDecrypter. Do you even know what is used on the titles the OP was referring to?

    Just because an app is older doesn't make it useless. Hell, I still use Macromedia's Fontographer v4.1, which was untouched for years (since '97-98) while it was bought by Adobe and then Fontlab (only in the last couple of years have they resurrected it as a Mac app). But even as it was, it ran fine on any system I used and was (and probably still is) literally the best of its class in font creation & editing/manipulation.

    So, PLEASE, stop dissing DVDDecrypter so much!
    I never "diss" DVDDecrypter....or anything else for that matter. Adults don't "diss" or even use the word.
    I use DVDDecrypter quite often actually and I often recommend it because it does things that (I believe) none
    of the modern programs can do(like demux, by chapter for example). I love it so much it has been on every one of my
    posts for YEARS(see below). Using a newer decrypting program is just plain smart....and telling newbies that DVDDecrypter is old, outdated and could possibly cause problems(when decrypting) is nothing but plain, old common sense....and I will continue to keep doing so.
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    Originally Posted by hech54 View Post
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    Originally Posted by hech54 View Post
    Originally Posted by Axmann8 View Post
    So, I recently backed up my Death Note DVD box set I bought to ISO with DVD Decrypter.
    NOT a good idea. DVDDecrypter has not been updated in many years. It's quite possible your ISO's are messed up.
    Messed up in what way? DVDFab seems to handle them just fine.

    Also, what would you recommend as an alternative to DVD Decrypter?
    So you are ripping/decrypting twice with DVDDecrypter and DVDFab?
    No, I used DVD Decrypter to rip the DVDs themselves to ISO, and then I was using DVDFab to convert the DVD image to MP4 (Selecting certain chapters and whatnot). I wanted the images on my hard drive so I wouldn't have to deal with the DVD discs themselves, and that's why I used DVD Decrypter first.
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