How to make an HD DVD disc without a Blu-ray DVD burner?

[coody]

Most of the PCs in the market have no Blu-ray DVD burner. But, a Blu-ray DVD player and HD video camera have become popular. How do you make a HD DVD by copy the 1080p home video (.MTS files) to a DVD disc if your PC has no Blu-ray DVD burner?

[yoda313]

Read up on AVCHD.

Use multiavchd or tsmuxer.

Edit - forget about 1080p if its a long video. Down res to 720p and lower the bitrate to fit on a 8gb dual layer.

[mail2tom]

I second MultiAVCHD, but if you want to watch the finished product on your TV a standalone home DVD player will normally not play an AVCHD disk. However, MultiAVCHD can perform an HD to SD DVD conversion. This is handy for people without a standalone Blu-ray player for AVCHD playback. (See "cons" in link below.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

[coody]

Comparing Copy a AVCHD (.MTS file) to a regular DVD disc with a regular DVD burner using such as MultiAVCHD and copy a AVCHD to a Blu-ray DVD disc directly with a Blu-ray DVD burner, will the copied AVCHD disc and Blu-ray DVD disc have the same video quality or the video on the blu-ray disc will still exceed the AVCHD disc?

[poisondeathray]

Comparing Copy a AVCHD (.MTS file) to a regular DVD disc with a regular DVD burner using such as MultiAVCHD and copy a AVCHD to a Blu-ray DVD disc directly with a Blu-ray DVD burner, will the copied AVCHD disc and Blu-ray DVD disc have the same video quality or the video on the blu-ray disc will still exceed the AVCHD disc?

If I'm understanding what you are asking correctly, they will have the same quality . Since you copied the streams (not re-encoded) , the only difference will be capacity. A DVD5/9 won't hold as much data (so your compliation won't run as long) as compared to BD25/50 media

[turk690]

Most of the PCs in the market have no Blu-ray DVD burner. But, a Blu-ray DVD player and HD video camera have become popular. How do you make a HD DVD by copy the 1080p home video (.MTS files) to a DVD disc if your PC has no Blu-ray DVD burner?

This has the same theme as that which, for one, Sony does that perplexes me.
Although it's safe to say in the HD realm AVCHD camcorders galore are currently the norm, ordinary folks who have seen, and can tell an HD show from SD are still not wont to conquer their fears of frightening things such as "AVCHD". To help provide an answer to that inevitable query "how can I get the beautiful HD video off my camcorder (before I erase them, etc)??" Sony steers decidedly non-techie Ma and Pa to invest in a stand-alone DVD-recorder (like the VRD-MC6) which get connected via USB to their, say, HDR-CX150. They then load a blank DVD+R, press a few buttons, and later out comes your handy DVD video.
What I can't see is, why insist and push SD DVD as an ultimate destination for the AVCHD files? Why can't there be a blu-ray model which functions exactly the same but of course provides a BD video version later of the AVCHD files still in all of their glorious HD? Is that going to be an expensive thing to even ponder about? Are there difficulties with BDAV on the fly? Are the variabilities still on a level that there will be teeth-gnashing incompatibilities between a recorded BD-R and playback on any recent BD player?? Will it frighten Ma and Pa unnecessarily/even more?? Or will it give more work to a typical electronics emporium salesman?

[yoda313]

Since you copied the streams (not re-encoded) , the only difference will be capacity. A DVD5/9 won't hold as much data (so your compliation won't run as long) as compared to BD25/50 media

The other difference may be some bluray players may not natively play a mts or m2ts file directly off a disc. It may need to be authored onto a disc in avchd format for it to be recognized.

And as poisondeathray did mention if you don't reencode at all storage space is your main constraint.

But again just like taking a mpg file and authoring a dvd you can take a mts or m2ts and author a legit bluray instead of burning the data file to bdr. Depends on what you want to do with it.

[poisondeathray]

The other difference may be some bluray players may not natively play a mts or m2ts file directly off a disc. It may need to be authored onto a disc in avchd format for it to be recognized.

This is a very good point to bring up. I assumed he meant copied as in not re-encoded , but authored . No blu-ray player that I know of can play .m2ts or .mts natively without authoring - including accessory structure, folders, etc.. (i.e. they can't play it as a data disc , unlike some dvd players that can play data discs of divx or even mpeg files)

[yoda313]

The other difference may be some bluray players may not natively play a mts or m2ts file directly off a disc. It may need to be authored onto a disc in avchd format for it to be recognized.

This is a very good point to bring up. I assumed he meant copied as in not re-encoded , but authored . No blu-ray player that I know of can play .m2ts or .mts natively without authoring - including accessory structure, folders, etc.. (i.e. they can't play it as a data disc)

Actually the ps3 can play m2ts files as just plain files. I don't know if it handles mts as I don't have any and I don't have a hd camcorder. Just thought I'd clarify that.....

[poisondeathray]

Actually the ps3 can play m2ts files as just plain files....

cool , I never knew that . You usually get error message with normal standalone blu-ray players

[yoda313]

Yep.

In fact the last update to the hauppauge hd pvr has a setting for m2ts files and it simply says ps3 for the recording format.

[coody]

Read up on AVCHD.

Use multiavchd or tsmuxer.

Edit - forget about 1080p if its a long video. Down res to 720p and lower the bitrate to fit on a 8gb dual layer.

I have tested the tsmuxer to try add the .mts file. It was unable to add the .MTS file. The message is "tsMuxeR not found." Can the multiavchd input the .mts file and copy to the regular DVD-/+R(HD DVD)?