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    Hi, I am trying to construct a DVD based on some videos made through a Kodak Digital Camera. No matter how I convert the MOV video, when I compile the DVD, it gets almost 99% done, then returns errors saying "the Size of run-length is over 1440 bits". I've even bought Quicktime Pro to be able to export MOVs to DVD.

    Can anyone help me please? I've been trying different solutions for more than a month and nothing's worked.
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    I've tried that. No change in behavior.

    Or have you tried this with Kodak Camera MOV files and had success? Which version did you use?
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    Try converting them to highest bitrate available h264 MOV files using Mpegstreamclip, then encoding the resulting files into DVD. Just for a test.
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    Soopafresh: I tried using Mpegstreamclip to convert them to AVI, and that gave me a file with audio, but no video. Then, for the heck of it, I tried MP4. That give me audio and video, but I got the same results when I tried to compile a DVD (Size of run-length is over 1440 bits).

    thomasj: I will try your solution next. Is this the latest version of your avisynth file?
    LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\nnedi2.dll")
    QTInput("UTC 2004-01-01 170128.mov", color=2, audio=true)
    ConvertToYV12()
    AssumeTFF()
    MSU_FRC(4, "slow")
    ConvertFPS(60000,1001)
    nnedi2_rpow2(qual=3,rfactor=4,cshift="spline36resi ze",fwidth=720,fheight=480)
    DegrainMedian(limitY=5,limitUV=5,mode=3)
    SeparateFields()
    SelectEvery(4,1,2)
    Weave()
    Subtitle("Test", align=1, text_color=$ffffff, size=18, last_frame=90, x=48, y=432)
    info()
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  6. I wouldn't go blindly applying some avs script designed for a specific purpose.

    For example, your files might not match thomas' specs; they might be different size, different fps. He's upscaling, re-interlacing and adding hardcoded subs as well - you might not want that

    Use mediainfo on your source clips, view=>text, and post the info back here

    Does your compling error occur only on that 1 clip ? (have you tried others, perhaps its damaged)

    What programs are you using? for converting? for authoring? I don't believe QT can do all this (it doesn't author DVD's)
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    It's happening with all my files, but I'm using three for testing purposes. All the files were taken from the same source, so I believe if one has a problem, they all have a problem.

    Here is File #1
    Code:
    General
    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\kodak movies\2005-01-02\100_0130.MOV
    Format                           : QuickTime
    Format/Info                      : Original Apple specifications
    File size                        : 13.5 MiB
    Duration                         : 57s 646ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 960 Kbps
    Movie name/More                  : EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY  KODAK DX7440 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    Origin                           : Digital Camera
    Video
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Simple Streaming Video@L3
    Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default
    Codec ID                         : 20
    Duration                         : 57s 646ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 1 863 Kbps
    Width                            : 640 pixels
    Height                           : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 13.010 fps
    Resolution                       : 24 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.466
    Stream size                      : 12.8 MiB (95%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    Audio
    Format                           : ADPCM
    Format profile                   : U-Law
    Codec ID                         : ulaw
    Duration                         : 57s 646ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 96.0 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                    : 12.0 KHz
    Resolution                       : 16 bits
    Stream size                      : 676 KiB (5%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:46:41
    File #2
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    General
    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\kodak movies\2005-01-02 (2)\100_0131.MOV
    Format                           : QuickTime
    Format/Info                      : Original Apple specifications
    File size                        : 13.7 MiB
    Duration                         : 1mn 46s
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 080 Kbps
    Movie name/More                  : EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY  KODAK DX7440 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    Origin                           : Digital Camera
    Video
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Simple Streaming Video@L3
    Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default
    Codec ID                         : 20
    Duration                         : 1mn 46s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 982 Kbps
    Width                            : 320 pixels
    Height                           : 240 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 24.033 fps
    Resolution                       : 24 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.532
    Stream size                      : 12.4 MiB (91%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    Audio
    Format                           : ADPCM
    Format profile                   : U-Law
    Codec ID                         : ulaw
    Duration                         : 1mn 46s
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 96.0 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                    : 12.0 KHz
    Resolution                       : 16 bits
    Stream size                      : 1.22 MiB (9%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-01-01 15:48:57
    File #3
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    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\kodak movies\2005-05-01\100_0435.MOV
    Format                           : QuickTime
    Format/Info                      : Original Apple specifications
    File size                        : 1.75 MiB
    Duration                         : 13s 107ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 120 Kbps
    Movie name/More                  : EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY  KODAK DX7440 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    Origin                           : Digital Camera
    Video
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Simple Streaming Video@L3
    Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default
    Codec ID                         : 20
    Duration                         : 13s 107ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 1 022 Kbps
    Width                            : 320 pixels
    Height                           : 240 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 24.033 fps
    Resolution                       : 24 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.554
    Stream size                      : 1.60 MiB (91%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    Audio
    Format                           : ADPCM
    Format profile                   : U-Law
    Codec ID                         : ulaw
    Duration                         : 13s 107ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 96.0 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                    : 12.0 KHz
    Resolution                       : 16 bits
    Stream size                      : 154 KiB (9%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2005-04-16 19:23:23
    My current DVD making process is:
    1. Export the MOV to AVI using Quicktime Pro
    2. Use AVStoDVD to make the AVI file into elementary MPEG2 streams
    3. Put the MPEG2 streams into DVD-Lab Pro and make a DVD.

    I've experimented with lots of other tools and processes and everything gives me the 1440 error. Let me know if you need more detail on these steps.
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    I'll bet this will do it.

    http://mp4cam2avi.sourceforge.net/


    If you want to try the avisynth method:

    1) Install Avisynth
    2) Download both attached files(see below), unzip and put DLL in Avisynth Plugins folder



    Your script would look like this (save the file as test.avs)

    Qtinput("C:\Alpha\kodak movies\2005-01-02\100_0130.MOV").Converttoyv12()
    Spline36resize(640,480)
    super = MSuper(pel=2)
    backward_vec = MAnalyse(super, isb = true)
    forward_vec = MAnalyse(super, isb = false)
    MFlowFps(super, backward_vec, forward_vec, num=30000, den=1001, ml=100) #29.97fps
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  9. Your clips have different fps, and resolutions and are not DVD compliant => their framerates and resolution need to be adjusted

    Did AVStoDVD output compliant MPEG2 streams in terms of fps and resolution? (ie. did it "fix" it in terms of those specs) => what does mediainfo say about those clips ?

    What kind of AVI did QT export?

    Have you looked at DVDLab manual? What does that error message indicate?
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    Here is the mediainfo for file#1 when I converted it to AVI using Quicktime Pro
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    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\kodak movies\2005-01-02\100_0130.AVI
    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 813 MiB
    Duration                         : 57s 667ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 118 Mbps
    Video
    Format                           : RGB
    Codec ID                         : RGB 
    Codec ID/Info                    : Uncompressed RGB32
    Duration                         : 57s 667ms
    Bit rate                         : 118 Mbps
    Width                            : 640 pixels
    Height                           : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate                       : 12.000 fps
    Resolution                       : 32 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 32.000
    Stream size                      : 811 MiB (100%)
    Audio
    Format                           : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness      : Little
    Format settings, Sign            : Unsigned
    Codec ID                         : 1
    Codec ID/Hint                    : Microsoft
    Duration                         : 57s 645ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 352.8 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                    : 22.05 KHz
    Resolution                       : 16 bits
    Stream size                      : 2.42 MiB (0%)
    Interleave, duration             : 83 ms (1.00 video frame)
    Here is the media info when I converted that AVI file to MPEG2 using AVS2DVD

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    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\DVD_0_100_0130.mpg
    Format                           : MPEG-PS
    File size                        : 60.5 MiB
    Duration                         : 57s 600ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 8 809 Kbps
    Video
    Format                           : MPEG Video
    Format version                   : Version 2
    Format profile                   : Main@Main
    Format settings, Matrix          : Standard
    Duration                         : 57s 557ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 8 005 Kbps
    Nominal bit rate                 : 8 500 Kbps
    Width                            : 720 pixels
    Height                           : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
    Standard                         : NTSC
    Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.821
    Audio
    Format                           : AC-3
    Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
    Duration                         : 57s 600ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Channel positions                : C
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Video delay                      : -66ms
    The DVD-Lab Manual did not give any help regarding the error message. I've also google'd it and found little that explained the problem or solution.

    I will now try the AVISynth method and get back to you how it works.

    EDIT: Soopafresh: I used the AVISynth file and it converted successfully, but seemed to have converted it wrong. It made the file 21 minutes long with a very slow framerate, and made it 30gb. Here is the mediainfo for that file.

    Code:
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    Complete name                    : C:\Alpha\avisynth1.avi
    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    Format profile                   : OpenDML
    File size                        : 32.5 GiB
    Duration                         : 21mn 3s
    Overall bit rate                 : 221 Mbps
    Writing library                  : VirtualDub build 23567/release
    Video
    Format                           : RGB
    Codec ID                         : RGB 
    Codec ID/Info                    : Uncompressed RGB32
    Duration                         : 21mn 3s
    Bit rate                         : 221 Mbps
    Width                            : 640 pixels
    Height                           : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
    Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
    Resolution                       : 24 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 24.000
    Stream size                      : 32.5 GiB (100%)
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  11. As a test, try another authoring tool on the AVStoDVD exported clip , just to rule out issues with DVD Lab

    e.g. DVDAuthorGUI, GUI for DVD Author, DVD Styler or even retail like Encore or DVDA
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    I used GUI for DVD Author and that seemed to create a usable DVD. It compiled without error, and I was able to view the DVD well-enough on Cyberlink PowerDVD on my hard drive.

    Strangely, when I put the VOBs it created into DVD-Lab Pro, it gave me the 1440 error again.

    Edit: I should also mention DVD-Lab gave me the same behavior. When I tried the "alternative" compile, it worked, but produced no DVD files.

    Edit 2: I tried DVD Styler, but the movies looked awful. Very pixelated.
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    I found out the problem with DVD-Lab Pro. I had a text link in the menu that was fairly long. It could not encode the subpicture, because it was too complex. Subpic is encoded using RLE algorithm and each compressed line cannot take more than 1440 bits (DVD specs limitation). When you add a link, the object you add the link to becomes part of the subpicture mask which needs to be RLE encoded. Apparently, it causes the RLE code for one or more of the lines passing through that object to exceed the maximum allowed length.

    I reduced the number of characters in the text object, and the DVD compiled without error.
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