Best ever 2009 Camcorders ever

[Fary4u]

Hi

i'm very much confused about camcorder, i'm just new in this filed & don't know much about.
& don't knw which 1 i've 2 go for DV , DVCPRO HD , XDCAM , AVCHD ?

all i need to know easly buy related items with cheap prices & best to edit video composing,
i need 2 prices 1 with just take closeup shots & 1 take as a professional shots with steadycam & external HDD.

Which is the best quality format ? ( Pls see attatch picture )


which is the best format to save quality as normal DVD & Blueray.
thanks in advance for advice & +ve feedback.

Fary

[Persistence]

If you want to use a real Steadicam, you can't be talking about anything "cheap and easy."

A Flip HD hitched to a broomstick as a stabizer will cost 1/20 and yield nearly the same results. Honestly. Upload to a website will be easy. Total cost < US$200. Can't beat that.

On the other hand, if you want the "best" videocam, you'll also need a quad-core PC and a smashing graphics card to handle the 1920x1080p AVCHD files. So add US$2K or so to the cost of that $1.5K DMC-GH1 and its $1k ultra-wide lense, plus the $0.8K advanced outboard stereo mic, and $0.3k or so for expanded batteries. But, if shaky, the results will be less impressive than what you got from your old SD rig. Since few households have Blu-ray players, you may need to distribute in standard DVD anyway. HD videos uploaded to Vimeo for playback on small screens lose most of their HD charm. Close ups and clever edits matter most. Buy cheap, use multiple cameras, and you can get some pretty amazing results if you edit well.

[edDV]

We need more detail on your budget and shooting goals. Are you doing it yourself or with a director and union crew? I'm assuming you want to be the Producer?

At the high end you usually rent equipment. No one producer is working 24x7 unless a TV network.

[edDV]

Hi
i'm very much confused about camcorder, i'm just new in this filed & don't know much about.
& don't knw which 1 i've 2 go for DV , DVCPRO HD , XDCAM , AVCHD ?

DVCPro HD and XDCAM (HD and EX) are in the $6K to $30K range.

Above that, the Panasonic AJ-HPX3700 ($60K+rigging) would be good for shooting a typical HDTV drama.

This would be my vote for the Best of 2009.

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&store...del=AJ-HPX3700

[Fary4u]

Hi thanks 4 ur reply

regarding money issue i've got £ 80,000 funds available & more can be arrange need 2 start shooting as a production company 4 TV media & film industry

well i think so i go 4 ths Panasonic AJ-HPX 3700 wd special zooms
i've got so far is these. i just need professional solution 4 ths so we can start doing our job : )

about formatting video quality AVCHD is it good one ? so can i hire the team 2 do the job.

[poisondeathray]

about formatting video quality AVCHD is it good one ? so can i hire the team 2 do the job.

You probably want to use AVC-Intra 100, not AVCHD. AVCHD is lower grade 8bit, 4:2:0 sampling, 17-24Mb/s intended for consumers. AVC-Intra is 10-bit, 4:2:2 sampling, 100Mb/s intended for professional broadcast quality

You might want to solicit opinions from your crew, as they are the ones going to be using the equipment and software.

[edDV]

Night and day. AVCHD is a low end heavy compressed consumer format. AVC-Intra 100 is a high end production format.

I suggest you hire somebody with experience. There is much more you need to rent or buy.

ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/papers/AVCIntra%20FAQs.pdf
ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/papers/WP_AVC-Intra.pdf

[Fary4u]

Thanks 4 ur reply poisondeathray & edDV.
i've already buy Panasonic AG HPX500
about the camera i'm gonna buy 2 camera lenses but which lenses shall i buy it 4 close ups & normal use ?


the software i'm gonna use is Adobe premiere pro cs3 & After Effects ?
for DVD & Blueray quality ? is that good enough ?

[lordsmurf]

I would get CS4 for HD.

[glenpinn]

im just a wee bit curiuos as to why you are in here posting all this stuff and talking about this massive budget to buy all this equipment when you are obviously out of you league and have no knowledge at all about what your doing as far as equipment goes.

im not having a dig at you from an experts point of view here, im far from it, but if i wanted to do what your undertaking, i would be out there looking to employ a film crew, and then asking them what gear you will need for the given tasks your about to undertake.

if i was doing what your attempting and had 88,000 pounds or more to buy equipment, would it not be far better to hire the gear, as we all know how quickly this stuff loses value.

if it was me, i wouldnt be hanging about in here asking questions, id be out there looking for experienced people to do your filming for you.

anyway, good luck with it.

[lordsmurf]

You can buy the most expensive gear around, and still make awful videos or photos. Inversely, you can budget very low, and with skill, still create masterpieces.

I'm also dumbfounded by this thread.

[filmboss80]

All the best paints, brushes, and canvases will not make one an artist. The best word processing software will not turn someone into an author. Top-of-the-line hammers, saws, etc. will not make a person a master builder. By the same token, a tv and film production company cannot be created simply by throwing around lots of money to buy things that one has little understanding about.

Just the same, I find this thread terribly amusing. It's like watching Wylie Coyote run full-speed toward the cliff.

[lordsmurf]

" It's like watching Wylie Coyote run full-speed toward the cliff. "

--- using the Acme brand video catalog.

It reminds me of this Blue Collar skit:
https://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1979550/bluecollarskit.mp4

[edDV]

Your director of cinematographer will select different lenses for each scene. These are usually rented per the script and shooting schedule.

Like others are saying, you are blowing through your budget and will soon be out of money.

[Supreme2k]

I have to agree about hiring out vs. DIY. Even if you have the skill, it's sometimes cheaper and better to have it done for you.


Also, as a little nitpick, it should be "Best 2009 camcorder?" because a specific time will not be "ever". Plus, you should never be redundant on modifiers ("ever"), like saying "I was driving going for a drive driving."

[glenpinn]

like when i had my first dv cams, a panny GS70 and an MX500, then went up to a GS400 and decided because they were great cams to shoot family videos and weddings with, i was going to become a wedding/special events videographer (well i intended to train for it) so i shot off and did some research, asked around the traps about different cams etc, and concluded a panasonic AV-DVX100E was the best cam for my needs at that time, so off i went and got one thru a dealer in new zealand for $6500au (this was mid 2005 i think)

needless to say i didnt end up going into videography seriously for various reasons, so decided to sell the cam after 6 months, then realised i was gunna lose half the cost (as you always do with these things) and another videographer saw my adds and asked if he could hire the cam and from there it was hired to several videographers locally fo filming doco's and corporate videos and in 18 months i made my money back just from hiring it out, then i sold it to one of those guys so i made some extra $$$ on top, but i was lucky.

spending a zillion $$$ on buying (not hiring) all this gear without any film experience and trying to get that experience posting in this forum is asking for trouble, and as much as some members in here have tons of knowledge and experienc, its impossible for them to offer an opinion based on your questions, and rants about what your trying to do.

keep your money and do i right.

now im off to play with my new (well old now) sony VX-2100E that i bought the other day for $500.

still not giving up on the panny TM300 or HS300 whatever on i decide on.

cheers

[zoobie]

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[Fary4u]

thxs guys for your considration
well i can say that i just need to get idea so the post is very usefull &
to be very honest i've already got in my mind what i want to buy & what i would like to do

Regards
Fary

[creamyhorror]

thxs guys for your considration
well i can say that i just need to get idea so the post is very usefull &
to be very honest i've already got in my mind what i want to buy & what i would like to do

If you're not experienced in the field, why not hire the team then let them recommend the equipment to rent/use? They'll know what's appropriate and what isn't. What if you find later on that the equipment suggestions here aren't quite what you need?

Whatever happens, do keep us posted on what equipment you eventually get and what your team says.