Backing up HD DVD to DVD5/9 - Anyone had success ?

[HARRYSPADGE]

Hi,

Before you all shoot me down I have 'searched' and can't really find what I'm looking for

So my question is, is there any good method's of backing up my HD DVD's to a DVD5/9 the same way I can back up my Bluray's to DVD 5/9 with BDRebuilder ?
I only want to backup the main movie so any advice or idea's or even a link to a good guide would be appreciated.
I know how to rip the HD DVD's to my pc, I just need to know the process (if there is one) for stripping/shrinking the resulting files to a DVD.

Thanks in advance.

[wulf109]

Ripbot will convert HD-DVD to BlueRay on DVD5,DVD9,or BD25. Just load the first movie EVO and ripbot will do the rest. Or do you want to shrink to HD-DVD that will play on an HD-DVD player,which probably isn't possible.

[HARRYSPADGE]

Ripbot will convert HD-DVD to BlueRay on DVD5,DVD9,or BD25. Just load the first movie EVO and ripbot will do the rest. Or do you want to shrink to HD-DVD that will play on an HD-DVD player,which probably isn't possible.

So you are saying that Ripbot will convert the HD DVD structure to a Bluray structure that can then be put on to a DVD 5/9 to be played in a dedicated Bluray player.

If that is correct then that is exactly what I need - I will give it a go and let you know how I get on.

Thanks

[jman98]

You can do this and you can create HD DVD format video on DVD-5 or DVD-9 that a Toshiba HD DVD player will play. I did so more than 1 year ago so I can personally tell you that it's possible. But it's really a dead end. To create HD DVD format discs you need a commercial product. Ulead has a product that can do it, but it was fussy as hell about what it would accept as input without re-encoding it at substantial quality loss. There was an HD DVD release of Scenarist that I used as it worked better than Ulead, but if you don't already know how to use Scenarist for DVD creation, it's not really an option. That version of Scenarist is not being made now and not available through normal channels for purchase.

Best bet is to convert to BluRay as wulf109 says. However, do note that BluRay players are horribly inconsistent about playing BluRay content on DVD media. Some require the disc to be created as a BluRay disc and others require it to be created as AVCHD.

[wulf109]

I've converted my HD-DVD collection to BlueRay with Ripbot . I see your computer specs,you should expect very long encode times,12-16 hours. All HD and BD encodes are very slow,but I guess you know that.
A quad CPU would cut the time in half.

[wulf109]

jman98 makes a very good point about DVD5 and DVD9 compatability on BD players. In my expierence Sony is the best and Panasonic should be avoided. I have a Sony S350 and BX2 and they have never failed to play my BD on DVD9 or DVD5. I tied a Panasonic 60 and it choked and wouldn't even load the same disks.

[HARRYSPADGE]

I've converted my HD-DVD collection to BlueRay with Ripbot . I see your computer specs,you should expect very long encode times,12-16 hours. All HD and BD encodes are very slow,but I guess you know that.
A quad CPU would cut the time in half.

My computer specs are well out of date so I wouldn't take any notice of them, but your right, the PC I use for Bluray backup is far from Dual/Quad core and it take's a hell of a long time.
I'm just waiting to upgrade to a Quad when I can.

Does Ripbot create an AVCHD disc the same way BDRebuilder does ?

[HARRYSPADGE]

jman98 makes a very good point about DVD5 and DVD9 compatability on BD players. In my expierence Sony is the best and Panasonic should be avoided. I have a Sony S350 and BX2 and they have never failed to play my BD on DVD9 or DVD5. I tied a Panasonic 60 and it choked and wouldn't even load the same disks.

I have a Panasonic BD35 and it hasn't choked on any of my AVCHD Bluray backup's which I have created with BDRebuilder so far, but then I've only done a few so far (cos it takes forever to happen with my PC )

[HARRYSPADGE]

Can anyone advise me what setting's I should be using in Ripbot to convert my HD DVD's to Bluray to keep maximum quality.
Obviously I am converting them to AVCHD so just need to know what setting's to use as there seem's to be a few !
I want to convert/shrink them down to a DVD 9 - I know how to do this part in Ripbot so need no suggestion's for this part.

Thanks.

[jman98]

I have never used Ripbot, but in general I would recommend sticking with AC3 audio and not any of the high def audio formats and not DTS. AC3 will take up the least space, which leaves more precious bits available for encoding your video.

[ocgw]

Alternate method I use: (I buy HD-DVD's for $1-2USD and create blu rays)

EVO Demux---->Change audio prefix to .mpa (some need this step for audio track to be recognized by TsMuxeR)--->TsMuxeR-->imgburn

Then you can use BDRB to make BD-9

note: The correct nomenclature for blu ray compliant folder structure on a DVD +/- DL disc is BD-9, not DVD-9

ocgw

peace

[mrswla]

Or you could use clown bd to convert main movie to blu ray, then use bdrb. I've used that method on a few blu ray discs.

[wulf109]

After Ripbot demuxes the streams you get a box to select options.
select 2 pass encode
select AVCHD
select lock size and select DVD9 in dropdown box
now select your audio option as they change based on your encode and size options,I normally select 640AC3. Using HD audio is not a good idea because it will use up 3Gigs of space.
There's no need to change the console option as Ripbot selects the best.

[HARRYSPADGE]

After Ripbot demuxes the streams you get a box to select options.
select 2 pass encode
select AVCHD
select lock size and select DVD9 in dropdown box
now select your audio option as they change based on your encode and size options,I normally select 640AC3. Using HD audio is not a good idea because it will use up 3Gigs of space.
There's no need to change the console option as Ripbot selects the best.

That's the answer I was looking for. Thank's wulf.

Thank's to all you other guy's for your idea's, there's a few more new method's there I can try out aswell.

@ocgw - Thank's for pointing out my DVD9 mistake - I did know that I should have called it a BD9 but simply forgot what it was called