Convert .h264 to divx/xvid or dvd success with slightly lower quality.

[Edgelessdiamond]

Hey guys well, I've been searching all over and trying a bunch of things, and so far the only converter that has worked for me so far is... Super.

But unfortunately I have to set it to convert at 2400kbps or something like that atleast to get it to convert from h264 to divx with ok quality. But, when I do that it nearly doubles the size of my avi files

I'm using my parents pc which has a 3ghz processor and onboard graphics card to do the encoding.
Even after that I lose a little bit of quality and I get a little bit of pixels, which I shouldnt get for High Definition.

I'm trying to conver h264 1280x720 to divx/xvid 1280x720 and possibly remux it back into mkv with the subtitles afterwords.


Anyways I've gotten to the point of where Either a go buy a ps3 and setup all of my tv series to play on the avchd format or b: buy a better motherboard and graphics card and buy a high definition tv for my room. C: which I'm starting to lean towards now is convert my stuff back to dvd format on dual layer dvds or double sided dvds.


Anyways as for the anime watchers do you guys find that you notice a big difference with hd anime quality and regular sd quality?

Anyone else who doesnt watch anime should not answer that question.

Anyways since the world is going high Depth and everyone is leaning toward the h264 format I'm trying to figure out what I need to do because my xbox will play everything but the h.264 format.

and I'm not going to buy any dvds for any tv series or movies until they start releasing everything in blu-ray then I'll start buying stuff in blu-ray later. Because buying sdtv content is a waste of money.


Anyways need some help here and recommendations but, so far from my trial and error I've determined this.

To convert h.264 to divx I would need to first convert it to a very high bitrate in blu-ray and then convert it back down to divx/xvid so that I would come out at 200-250 mb an episode at 1280x720 with excellent picture quality on divx/xvid format, in mkv format preferably.

And that is way too long of a process.

[Soopafresh]

Hard drives are cheap. So is the PS3

[45tripp]

So is the PS3

is it ?

[Soopafresh]

Compared to a new car...

[Midzuki]

Anyone else who doesnt watch anime should not answer that question.

Already been to the anime newsgroups
Already visited the Animesuki forums

Speaking about watakushi, I've been watching anime-tachi ^_^ regularly
since 1967 =^.^= I would label myself as an anime "enjoyer", not an anime
fanATICAL. As for comparing "HD-anime" to "SD-anime", I can only say that
good anime are worth watching and bad anime are not worth watching,
regardless of their original video resolution. ^_~

I'm trying to conver h264 1280x720 to divx/xvid 1280x720 and possibly
remux it back into mkv with the subtitles afterwords.

Forget SUPER. Start learning how to use VirtualDub, Avidemux,
and why not some basic Avisynth. It's really worth the effort.

Because buying sdtv content is a waste of money.

[Edgelessdiamond]

haha thanks for the feedback guys, my bad if I offended someone with the buying sdtv content is a waste. But, it would be a waste right now, because of blu-ray. If it was 2-3 years ago, then no it would still be ok. But, then again I guess thats technology.

and yeah I'll look into those programs. Right now I think I know what I am going to do. I'm going to buy a ps3, I'm also going to take any h.264 video that I have thats below dvd resolution and convert it to dvd. All the h.264 vids that I have that are 1280x720 I'll convert to avchd. The only thing I'm that I need to do more research on is what the ps3 or regular blu-ray player reads as far as resolution goes.


Also A hdd, is bad because a hdd has moving parts and within 2 years or so it might go bad. hdd is bad, cds and dvds and soon to be blu-rays are better.

[Edgelessdiamond]

Well I guess nobody else has any comments Moderator I guess you can lock this forum.

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Newsgroups? Its not worth supporting newsgroups. I did want to buy some of my favorite anime series that I've watched this past year but, they don't have it on blu-ray and when it comes to anime you have to be careful because of hong kong imports of the dvd version thats really pirated.

You know what I think is really bad, I think its bad to go into a book store here in America and read manga or any book and then not ever buy it because you already read it. Anyways I own a few manga books, and as I make more money I'd like to support the anime creators even more as well. So If people aren't giving me comments because they think I'm the kind of guy that just takes and doesnt support, then your all morons on this forum.

[Midzuki]

Well I guess nobody else has any comments Moderator I guess you can lock this forum.

Lock this thread? Possible. If I were a moderator, I'd be seeing no need for doing so.
Lock this forum? Quite improbable, I must say.

Newsgroups? Its not worth supporting newsgroups.

I conclude you have been to Usenet and you did not like what you saw @ there.

I think its bad to go into a book store here in America and read manga or any book
and then not ever buy it because you already read it.

I did want to buy some of my favorite anime series that I've watched this past year but, they don't have it on blu-ray and when it comes to anime you have to be careful because of hong kong imports of the dvd version thats really pirated.

Anyways I own a few manga books, and as I make more money
I'd like to support the anime creators even more as well.

Would you be planning to move house to Japan?

So If people aren't giving me comments because they think I'm the kind of guy
that just takes and doesnt support, then your all morons on this forum.

To be honest, your first post did smell like a spoiled rich little boy.
Not that I expect you to be reading this, but what the heck.

[Edgelessdiamond]

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Actually they have everything on there. The point is its not right to download from newsgroups, but I'm not going to say thats for every file there are some freeware and legal content to get on there as well.

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Rich? Actually it would be damn nice to be rich right now but, it takes a lot of work. I really look up to those people that have successful families and can give their children what they want to give them.

Anyways I was merely pointing out that I've done mostly everything and have done alot of research on here and then posted to seek more help. Oh wait I get it hahahaahahahaahha thats so funny you guys actually want people to post and ask and not do any research; and not do anything themselves first.

Point 2 I asked the moderator to close the topic hehe my bad I guess you thought I was talking about the whole forum jeesh I'm so sorry

Anyways I have no intention of turning this forum into a flame war if you have any more remarks your obviously just a kid thats got nothing better to do. I will not waste my time on your breath if I get any more rude remarks on you, because I know what will happen it will just go back and forth.

But, really thanks for the tip on those programs, I'll have to check them out.


Anyways I came here seeking advice and hoping that someone with more experience on video conversion could shed some more light for me.

So If anyone has any more comments that would be great otherwise I leave the locking of this thread to you moderator.

Oh yeah its nice to be able to type fast. 8)

[jagabo]

Try target quantizer encoding (Xvid) with a quantizer of 2 (nearly identical to source) or 3 (slightly more macroblocks than source).

[Midzuki]

DFTT.

[Edgelessdiamond]

Hey thanks jagabo I'll give that a shot. hmm, I'm thinking of writing up a tut soon on how to convert these formats over soon.

I'll have to try playing around with target quantizer encoding next.

So far the best results I have is using Super with these settings

Bitrate 3102 with mencoder selected as encoder
Avi or whatever container you want to use.
Xvid or any codec you want to use
AAC or any codec that you want to use.


I'm thinking of even raising that bitrate to 4000. It takes a long time but, my computer stays on all day and all night anyways

I hope that other people will be well informed on how to convert these formats to and fro as well.

The only thing I need to figure out now, is how to block from seeing certain individuals posts.

[manono]

Making lots of friends in your 3 days here, I see.

I'm thinking of writing up a tut soon on how to convert these formats over soon.

Now there's something I'll look forward to reading, you being so knowledgeable and all.

[jagabo]

So far the best results I have is using Super with these settings

Bitrate 3102 with mencoder selected as encoder
Avi or whatever container you want to use.
Xvid or any codec you want to use
AAC or any codec that you want to use.


I'm thinking of even raising that bitrate to 4000.

The problem with using specific bitrates, be they CBR or VBR, is that you will sometimes waste a lot of bitrate and sometimes you still won't have enough. The nice thing about constant quantizer encoding is that you always get exactly the right bitrate. See this post for two examples:

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic349367.html#1837447

Both were encoded with the same quantizer. One came out to an average bitrate of 1 kbps, the other nearly 70,000 kbps. Real world video won't vary as much of course.

It takes a long time but, my computer stays on all day and all night anyways :D

Another nice thing about target quantizer encoding is that all scenes and all videos are treated equally. You can encode any scene and get an idea what all scenes will look like. There's no need to encode the entirety of a two hour movie. Just encode a few 1 minute segments and see how they look. Once you've done this a few times you know what all scenes will look like in any movie of any frame size, frame rate, amount of action or noise, etc.

At lower bitrates, 2-pass VBR looks better than target quantizer encoding. But at higher bitreate or lower quantizers the quality is about the same (when the bitrates match). And if you really want to minimize macroblocks with targert quantizer encoding, disable b-frames. The file size will go up of course.