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  1. Member _beavis_'s Avatar
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    hi, i'm a noob to DVD and here as well. i have been lurking for the past few days and have learnt alot, so thank you all for the great info and posts on this site. now for the question which i hope will not be filed in the obvious/stupid category but i am stumped.

    i am attempting to back up a DVD that i own. so far, i have used DVDFab HD Decryptor to read the video files off the DVD, and upon completion it made a VIDEO_TS folder with the *.VOB, *.IFO and *.BUP files in it. using Classic Windows media player + ffdshow, i can watch and listen to the VOB files, so im assuming good up to here.

    trouble comes when i try to use DVD Shrink to make an *.ISO. i can load the VIDEO_TS folder into DVD Shrink no prob, and play the movie in the little built in media window in the bottom left corner of the main window. but when i go to use the 'backup' function to do the compression it creates a 4.35GB iso that when burnt makes a coaster. this is where i'm stumped. i have tried a few different settings on the Edit->Prefrences, and re-created the iso, but each time i try to burn the resultant iso i get a coaster.

    funny thing is when i open the iso that DVD Shrink created, in DVD Shrink, it loads fine. however, when i load the same iso into DVD Fab HD the application hangs.

    sooo, my question is what do i need to do to configure my DVD Shrink so it will output an iso that can be burnt to a DVD and have it play on DVD players. ive already wasted like five blank DVD's. thank you for taking the time to read, any help is greatly appreciated.
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    Don't create a .ISO file --- tell DVDShrink to output a simple VIDEO_TS folder.
    Then, use ImgBurn for recording the IFOs, VOBs and BUPs correctly.

    P.S.: Also, avoid using crappy media --- Verbatim discs are the recommended choice.

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    What app are you using for burning the ISO?
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    I have used DVDShrink to create hundreds of .ISO's, then burned them with ImgBurn. Never a coaster! I use Taiyo Yuden 8X media. I can then use the same .ISO to create an Xvid with FairUse Wizard.
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    Originally Posted by Midzuki
    Don't create a .ISO file --- tell DVDShrink to output a simple VIDEO_TS folder.
    Then, use ImgBurn for recording the IFOs, VOBs and BUPs correctly.
    ok thanks i will download and try that now.


    Originally Posted by Midzuki
    P.S.: Also, avoid using crappy media --- Verbatim discs are the recommended choice.

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    is Sony crappy or good media? thats all i have for now but will get Verbatim in the future. thanks for the info.

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    What app are you using for burning the ISO?
    Nero.
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  6. welcome to the forums!

    unplayable dvdr's can be produced in any number of ways. check the movie dvdshrink produced. use a program like winrar, or isobuster to extract the folders from the iso, or as the other guys have said configure shrink to make folders, not an iso. play the movie folders with mpc, or powerdvd to make sure it works before burning. then use only HQ media like midzuki says, verbatim or taiyo yuden are the only ones i would suggest. make sure your dvd player can read dvdr media. normally dvd-r is more accepted than dvd+r. and finally only use imgburn to write the folders to dvdr.
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    success! well, almost. i now have a DVD that plays on both my PC's and my laptop, but only one of my regular DVD players (have 3). i'm thinking that it might be because of what minidv2dvd said about the dvd-r being more widely accepted? since i have only dvd+r right now, i will have to wait until i get my paws on some dvd-r. hopefully that will make it play in the remaining two players (fingers crossed).

    it was ImgBurn that did it. thank you all so much for suggesting that! so, the successful sequence ended up being:

    1. DVDFab HD Decrypter to read the video off the original DVD and create the populated VIDEO_TS folder.
    2. DVD Shrink to compress the original VIDEO_TS folder to a new, smaller VIDEO_TS folder (4.37GB)
    3. ImgBurn (Folder to Image function) to create an ISO from the VIDEO_TS folder output by DVD Shrink.
    4. ImgBurn (Image to Disc function) to burn the ISO from step 3 onto a DVD+R.

    will post back when i have a chance to try out the dvd-r. if anyone has any suggestions why it won't play in those two DVD players that i can fix please let me know.

    again, much thanks to all who helped me out!
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    You should be able to skip a step. I get Shrink to create the iso and then burn it with ImgBurn. If you go into the settings in Shrink you should be able to make it do it in one hit (Edit, Preferences, FileIO). As soon as it's finished shrinking, it will start the burn process.

    and don't ever try to use Nero to burn an iso.......
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    Originally Posted by _beavis_
    success! well, almost. i now have a DVD that plays on both my PC's and my laptop, but only one of my regular DVD players (have 3). i'm thinking that it might be because of what minidv2dvd said about the dvd-r being more widely accepted? since i have only dvd+r right now, i will have to wait until i get my paws on some dvd-r. hopefully that will make it play in the remaining two players (fingers crossed).


    will post back when i have a chance to try out the dvd-r. if anyone has any suggestions why it won't play in those two DVD players that i can fix please let me know.

    again, much thanks to all who helped me out!
    There are other possibilities, as well. If the media is of marginal quality, some drives may not be able to cope with it. So, if it turns out not to be a -R vs +R issue, look into better media (which you've already said you intend to do). You could also try burning a notch or two below max speed. This sometimes produces a sufficiently better burn that it can help overcome the media's shortcomings to a degree. So, if it's 8x media, try burning at 6x or 4x (but no slower) and see if compatibility improves.

    Good luck!
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    I've use dvdshrink to create many iso images and then before i erase the original dvd9 i mount it to check on my pcs dvd player software I never had any problems with dvdshrink creating the image

    as for dvdr blank disks I've had coaster problem not many but a few dvdrs in while will come up blank
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    Originally Posted by Richard_G
    and don't ever try to use Nero to burn an iso.......
    lol. good to know that. yeah methinks nero may have been the source of the trouble after all (in burning the iso) rather than DVD shrink in creating the iso. after work today i downloaded iso buster and was able to use it to extract and play the VOB's from the orignal ISO that DVD Shrink produced, witch seems to indicate that the ISO that 'shrink produced was indeed good, and that it was nero that put me in the coaster manufacturing business.

    will use ImgBurn for all my future iso work! really great tool and very easy to use (intuitive UI, etc)

    thanks Richard for the reply!
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    Originally Posted by tomlee59
    There are other possibilities, as well. If the media is of marginal quality, some drives may not be able to cope with it.
    the media i used was Sony (sorry if thats a 4 letter word around here!) DVD+R 16x blank media. got a 30 pack of 'em for xmas. an earlier poster suggested Verbatim DVD's ... are those the most widely accepted in DVD players? thanks.


    Originally Posted by tomlee59
    You could also try burning a notch or two below max speed. This sometimes produces a sufficiently better burn that it can help overcome the media's shortcomings to a degree. So, if it's 8x media, try burning at 6x or 4x (but no slower) and see if compatibility improves.
    ooh, i burned at 2.4x because that was the slowest speed my burner offered and i figured it would produce the most reliable data transfer. more time that the writing laser is in contact with the disc and all. is 2.4x too slow? should i try again at 4x or 8x?

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    Good luck!
    good luck? whats that? never seen it before in my life
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    Originally Posted by killerhex
    I've use dvdshrink to create manye iso images and then before i erase the original dvd9 i mount it to check on my pcs dvd player software
    yeah good move! thats what i will be doing from now on now that i have iso buster. btw, anyone know if the trial version of isobuster expires or is it one of those deals that the trial never expires but you get more features if you pay?

    thanks.
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    Sony "made in Taiwan" is generally good. If those are the ones you have, and the burns are failing, consider burning at 4x-12x, not 16x or faster. Your burner may be the problem, or the burn speed.

    If those still fail, it's definitely the burner. But Verbatim may work. If Verbatim fails too, toss the burner, it's crap.

    My money says you've got a LG OEM drive, right? Came in the computer, maybe HP or Dell?
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