dvd recording problem

[machfee]

i have inadvertantly,using my toshiba d-vr35sb, formatted the dvd in dv-vr instead of dv-v,now i cant play it on other dvd players,is there an easy way by using a computer to reverse this problem,thanks :

[driguy]

On the computer? No, not really. Try finalizing it on your recorder.

[DB83]

You can import the video from the -vr disk into your computer. Mpeg Stream Clip, Ulead Video Studio, Tmpenc dvd author and probably Nero can do this.

You can then use the Mpeg2 video to author a standard dvd.

Not quick and easy but it will work.

[usually_quiet]

If your computer can see a .VRO file on the DVD, there are ways to re-author the video and burn a conventional DVD disc, but it isn't a simple one-click process.

The easiest way would be to use TDA (not free, but it has a free trial), which can detect the individual programs in the .VRO file, and allows you to re-author them to a DVD-compliant format, including menus, all done within TDA.

If you need a freeware solution you could use MPEG Streamclip to separate the file into individual programs, and export each using the demultiplex option. After that, you would use DVDAuthorGUI to create menus and author the demultiplexed video and audio to a DVD-compliant format.

After authoring with either TDA or DVDAuthorGUI, you would burn the VIDEO_TS folder created byr the authoring ap, along with its files, to a new DVD+/-R using ImgBurn.

[machfee]

thanks everyone but it all seems a bit to complicated to me.

[machfee]

thanks everyone but it all seems a bit to complicated to me.

i have had a bit of luck see my last post,ie toshiba rec.the programme is going to be screened again so lets hope i can do it ok this time,but another problem i have encountered is when i try to copy a commercial dvd on nero towards the end it states there is a unrecoverable read error,and using the dvd decrypter it keeps retrying to over write errors,but gives up after a bit at the end of the disk . any ideas how i can get round this,thanks

[usually_quiet]

...but another problem i have encountered is when i try to copy a commercial dvd on nero towards the end it states there is a unrecoverable read error,and using the dvd decrypter it keeps retrying to over write errors,but gives up after a bit at the end of the disk . any ideas how i can get round this,thanks

I am assuming you have already ruled out physical damage and smudges. Development on DVD Decrypter ceased a couple of years ago. If your DVD is a more recent release than that, DVDFab HD Decrypter, which is still updated regularly, might be able to back up your disc.

[orsetto]

Conversion is never easy: the simplest solution is to record the upcoming re-run you discovered. Nero is known to be a very flaky eccentric burning program: as others suggested, try downloading ImgBurn and using that to burn your DVD backups instead. If DeCrypter still delivers a bum disc using ImgBurn, its outdated for what you're trying to copy and you'll need newer software.

[machfee]

thanks usually_quiet/orsetto,for your information,but it hasn,t worked.i have cleaned the disc and i ill check again for any scratches.is it possible to get a software that eithr forces or purges the disk to over come this problem.it is only the last 10 seconds that is the problem.

[orsetto]

Commercially pressed discs have constantly-evolving protection coding with each new release. The free decryption software that most people rely on has been outmoded repeatedly. You need to look for the very newest version of ripper and burner software. Also, some discs require you to change an obscure setting in the backup software to ensure the process doesn't hang in the last ten seconds- it isn't always a "click-once-and-walk-away" task. Sometimes its complicated.

When people are having an especially hard time of it, I usually recommend downloading the free trial versions of CloneDVD2/AnyDVD. This backup combo handles just about anything and is easy to use. Unfortunately once the free trial expires it is rather pricey to buy a license, with prices going higher after January 11th. Its worth it if you do a lot of backups, not so much if you seldom do. Since you only get 21 days of free CloneDVD use, you want to save that option for a real emergency. So try one more fix with your old software first: get your hands on as many different brands of blank media as you can find (borrow from friends). The fails-to-burn-in-last-ten-seconds symptom is common when your burner ages and can no longer handle current media, even from the same spindle. If you can wait a few days, buy some 8x media like TY (Taiyo Yuden) online. TY media is the final answer to every burning question: if you can't finish a burn using TY, you can rule out media issues and focus on the burner or your software. When all else is working normally, and my drives start refusing to burn anything except TY, I know they need to be replaced because their lasers are worn out (this week I replaced the burners in my PC and in my Pioneer 531 DVD recorder for this reason). And again, not to beat a dead horse: Nero is a bag of worms. Not only is it flaky, it installs faulty drivers in your Windows that cause problems with other software. Uninstall it.

[machfee]

Commercially pressed discs have constantly-evolving protection coding with each new release. The free decryption software that most people rely on has been outmoded repeatedly. You need to look for the very newest version of ripper and burner software. Also, some discs require you to change an obscure setting in the backup software to ensure the process doesn't hang in the last ten seconds- it isn't always a "click-once-and-walk-away" task. Sometimes its complicated.

When people are having an especially hard time of it, I usually recommend downloading the free trial versions of CloneDVD2/AnyDVD. This backup combo handles just about anything and is easy to use. Unfortunately once the free trial expires it is rather pricey to buy a license, with prices going higher after January 11th. Its worth it if you do a lot of backups, not so much if you seldom do. Since you only get 21 days of free CloneDVD use, you want to save that option for a real emergency. So try one more fix with your old software first: get your hands on as many different brands of blank media as you can find (borrow from friends). The fails-to-burn-in-last-ten-seconds symptom is common when your burner ages and can no longer handle current media, even from the same spindle. If you can wait a few days, buy some 8x media like TY (Taiyo Yuden) online. TY media is the final answer to every burning question: if you can't finish a burn using TY, you can rule out media issues and focus on the burner or your software. When all else is working normally, and my drives start refusing to burn anything except TY, I know they need to be replaced because their lasers are worn out (this week I replaced the burners in my PC and in my Pioneer 531 DVD recorder for this reason). And again, not to beat a dead horse: Nero is a bag of worms. Not only is it flaky, it installs faulty drivers in your Windows that cause problems with other software. Uninstall it.

i have somehow managed to copy the film , and actually see the film playing on my computer,but it is in a file known as vts_01_0.how do i now burn this to a blank dvd,?can i use nero perhaps?

[usually_quiet]

Were any other files or folders copied? If so, please list them, with file extensions. You may be ready to burn a disk now, depending on what you copied, and how large the files are.

The full name for "vts_01_0." should include the .IFO file extension. If so, it is a file that tells how to play the video. There will also be one or more files with the .VOB file extension, which contain the video (or maybe a menu), and perhaps there are other .IFO files and .BUP files too.

You can use Nero to burn, with the correct options selected, but ImgBurn is a better choice.

[machfee]

all i can see is a yellow disk with an arrow and the letters vts_01_0,but no ifo file ext.let me tell you were i am now,i have managed to burn the movie using nero and it will play on my computer, but not on a external dvd player,i am not very familiar with the technical part of dvd recordings as i can usually copy and burn using nero,therefore perhaps you can explain in more detail.thanks

[usually_quiet]

Your profile does not give any information about your operating system, What is it? If you use XP and have not set it up to show file extensions, I can give you instructions for that, if you need them.

I don't recognize the icon you have described. Maybe it is for an image? I can't tell you what it is. If you know how to the display details for all the files in a folder, the file type could also tell you what it is.

All you have done is burn a data DVD, which most regular DVD players cannot play. To get a playble DVD, you would need to have ripped all the necessary files, or author the ripped video to the DVD standard. Furthermore, it the files need to be burned correctly, not simply as data.

If you have an image file, it is ready to be burned, but it can't just be burned as data either.

Until I know just what you have, I can't help you further.

[machfee]

Your profile does not give any information about your operating system, What is it? If you use XP and have not set it up to show file extensions, I can give you instructions for that, if you need them.

I don't recognize the icon you have described. Maybe it is for an image? I can't tell you what it is. If you know how to the display details for all the files in a folder, the file type could also tell you what it is.

All you have done is burn a data DVD, which most regular DVD players cannot play. To get a playble DVD, you would need to have ripped all the necessary files, or author the ripped video to the DVD standard. Furthermore, it the files need to be burned correctly, not simply as data.

If you have an image file, it is ready to be burned, but it can't just be burned as data either.

Until I know just what you have, I can't help you further.

i will try to get back to you asap thanks

[DB83]

If you look at the very top left of this page for 'What is' and select DVD, scroll down the selected page and you can see a description of the folder structure of a DVD.

The easiest thing to do is to create a new folder called Video_ts on your hard disk and copy all the files on your hard disk that correspond to the files as described - if you are using XP you really should change your file display options to untick 'hide extensions for known file types' which you will find in 'tools/folder options/view' in Windows Explorer.

You should then burn that complete folder using the 'build' option of imgburn. Alternative you should also be able to burn that folder as a data disk under Nero.

If those other files are not there, you cannot simply make disk to play in a dvd player. You may just have the mpeg2 video as I described earlier and you will need a dvd authoring program such as Nero Express (not great but it will do the biz)

[usually_quiet]

You should then burn that complete folder using the 'build' option of imgburn. Alternative you should also be able to burn that folder as a data disk under Nero.

Both Nero Express and ImgBurn can burn ISO images to DVD, but both provide special options for that, so burning as data is not their recommended way to do it.

You may just have the mpeg2 video as I described earlier and you will need a dvd authoring program such as Nero Express (not great but it will do the biz)

Nero Express doesn't author. It can only burn. Nero Vision is their editing and authoring software.

[DB83]

You should then burn that complete folder using the 'build' option of imgburn. Alternative you should also be able to burn that folder as a data disk under Nero.

Both Nero Express and ImgBurn can burn ISO images to DVD, but both provide special options for that, so burning as data is not their recommended way to do it.

You may just have the mpeg2 video as I described earlier and you will need a dvd authoring program such as Nero Express (not great but it will do the biz)

Nero Express doesn't author. It can only burn. Nero Vision is their editing and authoring software.

I stand corrected re Nero Vision

Never had any problems tho in putting the dvd folders into an imgburn 'build'. Because at the end of the day a dvd disk is a data disk with two folders specifically named and the files in video_ts also with specific names. And it's because the stand-alone cannot find these files on the disk that it cannot play it.

[usually_quiet]

Never had any problems tho in putting the dvd folders into an imgburn 'build'. .

That is because Imgburn burns the files according to the DVD spec, not simply as data.

Because at the end of the day a dvd disk is a data disk with two folders specifically named and the files in video_ts also with specific names.

Not true. For one thing, according to the DVD spec, the .BUP and .IFO files are supposed to reside in different sectors, separated by a 32K buffer. Nero does not follow the spec in this regard, which is one reason why many of the members here refuse to use it for burning DVDs.

I don't know what other requirements there are with repect to how the various files are supposed to be arranged physically or logically on the DVD, but I would tend to think some exist.

[DB83]

Never had any problems tho in putting the dvd folders into an imgburn 'build'. .

That is because Imgburn burns the files according to the DVD spec, not simply as data.

Because at the end of the day a dvd disk is a data disk with two folders specifically named and the files in video_ts also with specific names.

Not true. For one thing, according to the DVD spec, the .BUP and .IFO files are supposed to reside in different sectors, separated by a 32K buffer. Nero does not follow the spec in this regard, which is one reason why many of the members here refuse to use it for burning DVDs.

I don't know what other requirements there are with repect to how the various files are supposed to be arranged physically or logically on the DVD, but I would tend to think some exist.

Am I being a bit thick here ? A dvd disk is no different in storage rules to any other media. No two files can share the same sector.As to the buffer bit, I will take your word for that at the moment. But remember this, imgburn would not have the intelligence to know that the build was a dvd-video. It just sees files and folders.If the buffer is needed then it is needed for any type of burn. But I've used imgburn, ulead and Sonic RecordNow and burnt dvds as 'data disks'. If Nero has some quirk in this respect then it is best avoided.

[usually_quiet]

You don't need to take my word for it. Here's a link that explains the 32K spacing between IFOs and BUPs, as well as some other details about the way DVD files should be burned. http://download.videohelp.com/r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/blutach/Burning%20With%20PgcEdit.htm

I made a mistake as well that confused things. I wrote "reside in different sectors" when I should have written "reside in different blocks"