General Bluray \ HD question

[Shayetet13]

Gooday everyone,

sorry about all the questions but im new to the bluray \ hd scene and want to get on the right tracks so i hope you will be patient and willing enough to help me out thanks it advance..

i just got an lg widescreen 22" 1:30000 , 2ms for my pc and also a 42" toshiba regza hd ready my question is
am i better of getting 720p or 1080p movies for the 42" and if its worh watching it on the 22" ?
the thing is i dont have a bluray player so will converting it to a dvd format hinder the quality?

i was also wondering what the difference is between hd ready and full hd has it got anything to do with 720p 1080p ?
its probably more convient to convert to dvd5 so does that mean i can only get 720p on a dvd5 and how noticible is the quality between 720 and 1080 ?
sorry again for all the questions.
thanks

[jman98]

Well, if you are buying BluRay discs, I think everything will be in 1080p. If you are going to download, then you are breaking forum rules by asking about that.

Your plan to convert to DVD defeats the whole purpose of having BluRay discs. You might as well just get original DVDs as it would be a lot easier to just buy them in DVD format than to convert to DVD.

"hd ready" is a buzzword that probably means it only plays 720p and converts 1080i/p video to 720p. "full hd" probably means it supports 1080i or maybe 1080p. However, given the deception of the TV manufacturers, I'd have to know the exact phrase and more info on the TVs to know which is true.

I find the quality acceptable to put about 45 minutes of HD video on a DVD-5. I record and save "The Office" (American version) this way. It's in 1080p and I re-encode (as necessary) to get 2 episodes minus commercials to fit on one single layer DVD.

You are very confused as you are talking about storing 720p on a DVD-5 disc, but that's NOT in DVD format and a DVD player won't play it. If you want to convert to DVD format than you won't have 720p or 1080i/p video any more.

720p has higher frame rates than 1080i/p. For sports or fast motion this may make the motion look better. 720p is really high quality video though, so I would not necessarily get too hung up on it. 1080 has a larger resolution and as such it will require higher bit rates to have the same quality as 720p video.

[RabidDog]

To get hi-def on a blu-ray disc requires 25gb + of storage space.. A std dvd5 has only 4.7gb a dual layer disc 8.5gb.. thats why newer disc formats were developed to allow the storage and playback of the much more storage hungry hi-def formats.
Only you can tell if you really see the difference between 720p and 1080p.
You are correct about the full and ready tags.
I don't see the point in plumping for a 720p only TV set.

[yoda313]

I thought the hd ready deal was whether or not the set had a tuner in it? Hd built in versus hd ready.... Hd ready means you need a tv tuner to add to it to watch tv. Hd built in means the set has a tv tuner already.

Now then again "full hd" is a little different. To me that is supposed mean 1080p.

[deadrats]

Gooday everyone,

sorry about all the questions but im new to the bluray \ hd scene and want to get on the right tracks so i hope you will be patient and willing enough to help me out thanks it advance..

i just got an lg widescreen 22" 1:30000 , 2ms for my pc and also a 42" toshiba regza hd ready my question is
am i better of getting 720p or 1080p movies for the 42" and if its worh watching it on the 22" ?
the thing is i dont have a bluray player so will converting it to a dvd format hinder the quality?

i was also wondering what the difference is between hd ready and full hd has it got anything to do with 720p 1080p ?
its probably more convient to convert to dvd5 so does that mean i can only get 720p on a dvd5 and how noticible is the quality between 720 and 1080 ?
sorry again for all the questions.
thanks

if you are buying a blu-ray disc, or an hddvd for that matter, the movies will always be in 1080p, there is no such thing as a commercial blu-ray disc in 720p (hell, i've never even seen one in 1080i and i've got a pile of legit, legal blu-ray and hddvd discs).

if you are downloading, let's just discuss downloading legal content, such as the windows media hi def samples that microsoft has on their site (discussion of downloading movies from torrent sites is against the rules of this forum). you are always better off downloading the higher resolution video, even though the download will take longer and even though it will take more space on your hard drive.

it is ridiculous to transcode a 720p or 1080p movie to dvd resolution, as your comment about dvd5 implies.

i watch 1080p movies on my 21" AOpen LCD and it is most definitely worth it, i also watch them, via my PS3, on my 32" LCD TV.

as for HD ready and full HD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready

[Nilfennasion]

The BD-Video standard allows for 720I, 720P, 1080I, and 1080P. This is so that material shot in those formats can be successfully encoded on it.

A lot of Warner Brothers' early dual-format releases are claimed to be 1080P, but in reality are based on 1080I masters. You can clearly see this when Morgan Freeman's shirt does the wavy-thing when he is standing in front of the camera during his first scene in Unforgiven, to name just one of many examples (I own three Warner BDs with this problem and the presence of aliasing makes them difficult to watch). Fortunately, the other major studios realised from the get-go that when you advertise a format as being 1080P, common sense tells you that you give the buyer a legit 1080P transfer.

There's been one release where early mock-ups of the packaging indicated a 1080I transfer. That was Short Circuit. I have no idea what happened with that one since it has yet to be mentioned again anywhere I looked.

House (the recent medical drama that turns making errors about medical procedure into an art form) is shot in 720P. Releasing it in 720P would make a lot more sense simply because it means less expensive leg-work for the disc authors. Not sure if Firefly is 1080I, but given that 1080P was considered fantasy when that show was shot, I would put money on it. And interlacing is like a GST or Herpes. Once you have it, you are stuck with it.

The funny thing about this thread is that if you had posted the specific make and model of your TV, someone could have told you in five minutes flat what its maximum display resolution was. Oh well, live and learn I suppose.

As for your question about whether converting the BD to DVD will hinder the quality, well, it is like this. Assume for a second that the BD is of a feature film and encoded in 1080P, as the vast majority of discs currently available are. At best, DVD can offer 576I. What do you reckon? Incidentally, my folks and I tried to watch one of my BDs on a 4:3, 68cm, composite-only television. It reminded me in one second flat why I am reluctant to watch anything in standard definition ever again.

Lastly, if your set says "HD ready" in the accompanying materials, then do not expect it to deliver 1080P. HD ready is a catchphrase advertisers use to trick people who do not do their research. Full HD is the catchphrase that manufacturers of legit 1080P panels use to announce to people who do their homework and care about quality that their product is capable of delivering what they want.

[edDV]

Like Nilfennasion suggests, give us the make and model of the monitor and HDTV and we can fill in the details.

"HD Ready" means ATSC tunerless and for a 42" means manufactured before July 2005 if in USA. Native resolution is most likely 1366x768 or less. At that size and resolution Blu-Ray has some advantage but upscaled 720p from a good DVD player will be close in quality and much cheaper.