virtual dub wont load the full vob

[tvlreject]

i can import the vob with virtualdub-mpeg2,but it wont read the vob's full video content.any suggestion?thanks.

[guns1inger]

What VOB ?
Created how ?
How much does it import ?
Do you get any error messages ?
Can you load it into something else ? AVI Demux would be a good candidate
Does the VOB play all the way through ? If so, with what ?

[tvlreject]

What VOB ?copied vhs to dvd with standalone
Created how ?either directly,ripped,or copied
How much does it import ?first 14 seconds
Do you get any error messages ?no
Can you load it into something else ? AVI Demux would be a good candidate wmm will load the full vob but when i edit it,it cuts the first and last few seconds of the cut
Does the VOB play all the way through ? If so, with what ? it will play as vob or dvd with wmp11

[mats.hogberg]

Try to extract the mpg out of the VOB with VOB2MPG first, then load the mpg in VD-mpeg2.

/Mats

[jagabo]

You can try VirtualDub 1.8.0 with an MPEG2 source filter. Or VirtualDUbMod. Or use AviSynth, DGIndex, and whatever VirtualDUb variant you want.

[tvlreject]

vob2mpg only produced two 715kb files out of the whole vob set.in learning how to do all this i was under the impression you could directly import vob's.edit,then save as avi.i hope its just particular to this disc.otherwise what im looking at is converting all future vob's with autogk,just to edit them.which we all know is very slow.if virtualdub can load it,it can "convert" the vob to avi,so i dunno.im going to sleep for now guys.thanks for the responses.

[mats.hogberg]

There's surely something wrong/odd with your source VOB if 2 out of 2 tried converters stop short while reading it. Players often skip inconsitencies - converters/encoders don't.

/Mats

[tvlreject]

DVD Shrink says "invalid dvd navigation structure".DVD decrypter ripped the dvd to hard drive in file mode.i tried renaming the vob to mpg but the problem remained consistent.was i right about being able to directly import and edit vobs with wmm virtualdub ect?then,of course the vob is converted or saved as an avi,wmv.

[poisondeathray]

If the DVD is retail and fairly recent (within a few years), it likely has copy protection that cannot be managed by DVDDecrypter alone (which hasn't been updated in years). Try re-ripping with DVDFab or AnyDVD. DVDFab HD Decryper is the freeware version

[tvlreject]

actually the dvd is stuff recorded from vhs on a standalone philips.since i was able to record it i assumed the vhs had no copy protection.

[poisondeathray]

How does the VOB play on your PC?

Was avidemux (free) successful in opening it? (probably get an error too)

You could try mpg2cut2 (free) to open it and save as mpg (probably get an error too)

However, if it plays OK then Jagabo gave a suggestion that should work earlier: DGIndex, Avisynth and frameserve into an encoder of your choice.

[jagabo]

Make sure your DVD is finalized. Then rip it with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode. Rip each title as a single VOB file. See if you can read those files.

[tvlreject]

interesting i will try that.i think the problem is the title menu got meshed with the title content or something and it will not translate right.the disc is finalized.i just came accross chopper xp.it will load the full vob and let me edit it.but when i go to save vob as it gives me Error 52 - Bad file name or number.

[tvlreject]

jagabo's solution worked.the avi was letterboxed and the video was slightly degraded.but i can edit and save the parts of the video i could not before with virtualdub-mpeg2.so im sure i can go from there.case closed.thank you very much.thanks for all the replys.video help rocks!!

[guns1inger]

Any degradation is purely down to your settings when saving the file. Jagabo's advice should have given you a file identical in quality to the source on the DVD. You could try saving your avi using a lossless codec such as lagarith or huffyuv.

[tvlreject]

yes,but problem resolved.thats what i ment by i can go from there.im sure with a filter or two i can get a decent output file.and actually comparing the vob on the dvd to the avi the quality really aint that bad,just vhs crap.the main problem i have is the background pixles kind of break up giving it that blotchy look.i havent figured out how to filter that yet.i made a sample output file with the lagarith codec in vd but the video timeline was choppy

[jagabo]

Don't judge the Lagarith AVI's smoothness by playback. The codec is probably just too slow for realtime playback on your computer. Judge the smoothness by how the video plays back after you've converted to DVD or whatever your final output format is.

[tvlreject]

after a reboot the avi made with Lagarith played smoothly and i could see the quality.however it makes rather big files and that would be fine to burn to a dvd.i want to save these files to my HD so the smaller the better.but as far as the blotchy pixels.i dont know the term for it but its the same effect you get from flash video.little rectangles of blury pixels noise.any tips how to filter this effect?thanks

[guns1inger]

How long was the recording, and in what mode was it made ?

What you are describing sounds a lot like compression artifacts, which are caused by not giving the video enough data. This can be because you are trying to put to much on a disc, or have the mode set incorrectly on your recorder.

You can look at the MSU Smart Deblocker filter for virtualdub, but the trade off for removing these artifacts is usually softer, blurry images over all. Better to get it right in the first place.

[tvlreject]

first,forget about lagarith.it looks like a very nice codec but ill have to play with it another day.im speaking of just editing a video file and saving it as an avi in general.ive narrowed down what is causing the effect,it IS the compression settings in vd.i usually keep them as low as possible to get small files,fast.which are generally source quality.but i forget sometimes how important compression is.i set the divx codec to 1 pass quality based and it cleared up the problem.about 4mb for 30 seconds.also 2d cleaner,msu deblocker,smooth or blur seem to help.so im going to play around with it from here and see what i can come up with.thanks again