Would like advice on which tools for a music type video. Have a sample...

[WishMaker]

I finally have a sample of what I want to achieve. A music video/video like trailer comprised of many different clips
from either one source and or ideally many different sources w/music background and voice overs Dubs?

I tried to explain this back in a 2002 post. Posted: Oct 07, 2002 23:12
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic116821.html , but obviously I didn't know how to express what I wanted.

Here's the video clip of what I want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH4jvAMP7FA

I don't care how long it takes. I don't need the fastest method, in fact, if it takes a year (once I learn the
programs needed) to get a three minute video, I will be happy as a clam.

What I have done is gone around in circles, given up, tried this and that, and I'm back at wanting to try again, but
only if I can achieve the results in the YouTube Link above. (Even if I only get fairly close.)

What I have available to me are:
100's of DVD's for clip sources, both movie and entire seasons of television programs.
Adobe Premier 6.5 (bought used and will learn to use if I know I can get a music video out of it.)
DVDFabHDDecrypter (Have Ripped one DVD)
VirtualDubMpeg2 (Have used the Ripped DVD to get an 8 second clip, which is fine with me, I can play it, but don't
know about settings and if it will work if imported and rendered? I can import it into 6.5, but preview is one thing,
and being able to have it export is another, so I hear.)
VirtualDub (I forget what version) (Haven't gotten that far)
TMPGEncPlus2.5 (Got it a long time ago, but didn't know how to apply it.)
IEE whatever firewire to go with the canopus ADVC 100 (Used it once for a home video vhs. It sits on the harddrive
in a huge avi file and one lousy mpeg1 file.)
SUPER (downloaded today)
Audacity (Haven't used yet)
Nero Ultra 6.6?
Plus many other programs free and bought, but not sure which ones to use.

I would like to be able to put the end result, first in XVid or DivX format for my own enjoyment and then maybe some other format like burn a DVD later, once I learn that much. I have a Philips 642/37, that still plays.

If you view the sample music video or some call it a trailer like video, then you know I want more, (ALOT more)
than just editing out commericals etc.

Is there anyone who has done this sort of thing, that can tell me what kind of programs I need and what guides, if any I can use? If there isn't anyone out there, that knows how to do this, would you acknowledge by replying a haven't done or something, so I know if I should just pack it in for good?
I would be most thankful. You have no idea.

PS: I put this in the newbie section, because I still consider myself a newbie. (MY OWN FAULT for giving up too many times.) I have read posts and guides until my eyeballs have blister's, but I haven't found one for what I want to do. I also tried to get in touch with the person who made that video I'm using for the sample, but I haven't succeded. I would take classes, but I've been unable to leave my home for a few years AND my ability to sit in front of a computer for more than a few hours at a time is decreasing as my disease progresses. Kindest Regards, Deb aka WishMaker

[guns1inger]

I hate to sound rude, but I don't understand how you are finding this so difficult. It is, in fact, a simple editing job. Time consuming, certainly, with lots of small clips, but not complex at all.

1. Extract contents of DVD (DVDFab HD Decrypter for newer titles, DVD Shrink for older ones)

2. Convert the clips you want to use to lossless AVI format (Lagarith or Huffyuv) using virtualdub-mpeg2

3. Edit in Premiere and output in the required format.

The time consuming parts are extracting and selecting all the clips, and then putting them together to your audio. Personally I find Vegas a better editor for this type of work, but that is my choice. Premiere should certainly be capable.

But there is no magic guide to editing this type of mash up type clip.

[redwudz]

Probably many programs can do what you want.

Just my methods, maybe not the best, but I don't edit that much.

I would convert your video files to a common format. I prefer AVI types. Since you mention a ADVC, DV-AVI might be a good choice. It is one of the easiest formats to edit with. You just need to install a DV codec. I use the Panasonic DV codec most times, but there is also the Cedocida DV Codec, which may work better. You can extract from a DVD VOB directly to VirtualDub Mod or use a program like VOB2MPG to extract the whole DVD to one large MPEG file.

Audacity will do fine for the audio part. It will handle multiple channels and has most effects available you seem to require. I would convert everything to WAV format to use in Audacity.

I use VirtualDub Mod most times for editing. Lots of filters and guides available. Some filters here:
http://www.thedeemon.com/VirtualDubFilters/ Guides are at the bottom of the VD tool page. <<<<<<< You might also need the AC3 ACM Decompressor to read the AC3 audio with VDM.


That's all freeware, so all you might lose is time. Planning it all may be the hardest part.

You can frameserve the edited output from VDM directly to a MPEG-2 encoder, if that's your final format. Or output as a Xvid or other AVI with VDM.

[WishMaker]

Okay. Thank you so much for assuring me this is a simple editing job. I see so many posts, where there are sync issues, when actors are talking etc. I will push forward knowing this job can be done by a newbie. I might be back though, if problems arise. I have time to lose, that's for sure. I just don't have the experience. Thanks to you both.

[guns1inger]

One of the reasons I love using Vegas is because it makes it very simple to fix sync issues. And you will have them if you aren't careful, especially if don't take care when you do the initial extraction/converting.

Another tip, especially when cutting to music, is to find the beat, and use the timing of the music to choose the length of your clips. You will find that you can usually work in simple multiples of a simple number. You may find that two seconds is a good length for a short clip, and if you work in multiples of two seconds when trimming your clips, you will find synchronicity with the audio (note : two seconds is given as an example only, real value will vary depending on music chosen)

If you are still feeling intimidated, you might want to check out Muvee Auto Producer (http://muvee.com/en/) which tries to automate editing based on music. Warning - they have done something horrible to their website as a sales pitch.

[hech54]

For audio....check out Reaper.
I've been playing with it the past few days and so far I love it.