svcd and nero

[daveg]

I use an AIW 128 pro capture card and it's very good, no frame drops. excellent quality captures etc. When I capture using vcd standards, Nero 5.5xx examines the file and decides no re-encoding is necessary. This is excellent as total time to produce a good quality vcd= length of capture file + burning time. If I capture using svcd standards, Nero insists that the file is non standard and gives the two options, burn non standard or re-encode. My question is this.
What are the exact scvd parameters that Nero wants for it to accept the capture as is? It must have them detailed in its database somewhere on my pc.
If these settings were known then I could capture using these settings and save a lot of time by missing out the re-encoding stage. Or am I missing something here?

any ideas?


Life is short and hard, like a bodybuilding elf. 8)

daveg

[Barnabas]

The reason that Nero will accept your VCD file ok is that ATI has the VCD flag turned on in the registry, but there is no SVCD flag available in the ATI software, so Nero is going to complain. You can let Nero burn it as but it might not play on your DVD player, or demux/remux the file in TMPGenc. Keeping sync with an ATI has always been a problem, so check out your sync if you remux or cut the file.

[daveg]

I'm also using the MMC reg tool which allows you to set the bit for any profile you create. the reg bit can obviously only be 0 or 1 and I've tried both. It's a v handy tool... if only I knew what nero wanted.

[Sulik]

There is a way to get the VCD flag from inside MMC.
The key is to make your custom preset based on the VCD preset.

(Select custom->VideoCD->Edit-> make whatever changes your want)

[next]

The easiest way I have found to do SVCD with an AIW is to edit with Womble's Mpeg2vcr. But the caveat is to capture using MMC 7.5. Without MMC 7.5 you will have A/V sync problems - no A/V sync problems if you use MMC 7.5.

It's really a simple process with Mpeg2vcr. Simply edit your file and save it as an mpeg2 SVCD program stream. It takes a few minutes and burns fine in Nero.

For me its essentially real time SVCD captures because I usually have to cut/edit anyways. Using Mpeg2vcr saves the cuts as an SVCD compliant file.

[daveg]

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MMC 7.5? Will that work ok with AIW 128 pro, rage chipset? I'm assuming here that you're talking about the ati product. 7.1 is the latest for my card and microsofts is 7.1 for w2k. I'm up to date on directx too, using 8.1a plus the xxbda add-on. This mpeg2vcr util sounds good though.

Sulik
are you saying to use the vcd profile then just alter it to mpeg2 with a higher bitrate? The MMC reg tool allows me to set the reg bit for any custom profile I create, it's just that no matter what settings I try, nero insists it needs to re-encode the file. Hence my original question. Does anyone know what nero expects a file to be set as for svcd compliance?
If that were known then I'd just capture to that spec and save a lot of time.

[doug1937@hotmail.com]

Here's what I have:

WinXP, ATI AIW 128 Pro w/32MB, Nero 5.5.6.4 w/MPEG2 plugin

I don't know what Nero wants for SVCD compliance, but I tried the "turn off compliance" option when it complained that my capture wasn't compliant. The resulting SVCD displayed zero video on my DVD player (an Apex AD600), though the sound came through fine. This makes me think that a simple Registry flag change won't fix anything.

So I decided to bite the bullet and get the Nero MPEG plug-in (set me back a whole $16, big fat hairy deal).

Guess what? My non-compliant SVCD captures get encoded properly just before Nero burns it to CD-R and they play PERFECTLY on my DVD player. The menus even work great. (I just wish I could have 100% control over the menu layout--as it is control is limited.)

The only caveat is the encoding is a 4-1 time ratio...my 30 minute SVCD took 2 hours to encode. (Which is why I stick with VCDs most of the time--my AIW captures in native compliant VCD format.)

When I get time I'll look into TSCV, but I'm not holding my breath...

[daveg]

Ulead works!!
If I use Ulead video studio v5 to capture and set the output file to svcd (in the mpeg settings) then burn with nero 5.564 the only re encoding needed is done by Ulead. Nero accepts this output file as is, so there's still re encoding/ rendering but in Ulead. The Ulead video studio also enables me to clip the video to appropriate size for the cd's without any lip-sync problems.
All in all, nero 5.564 (with the extra $16 svcd plug-in) and Ulead video studio v5 between them have made it possible for me to create v. good dvd rips. the only fly in the ointment is the 2 gig limit on any one capture file.
Does anyone know a way around this?

regards

daveg

[lafamar]

daveg,

If your O/S is Windows 98 or Windows ME then you will always have 2 gig limit. The problem is the windows O/S and not from capture card.
A way to around this is change to O/S to Windows NT or Windows 2000 and your 2 gig limit problem is ended.
Good luck,

[Triffid]

The only way I know to get around the 2G limit is to capture with virtual dub using multi-segment capture (this may be supported also in other capture tools...I just use virtualdub). You then use virtualdub to frameserve the segments to TMPGEnc etc.

I do this using an ASUS V7700 deluxe card for capture, so I have no direct experience with your setup. ie there may by other issues for you to deal with. But, it works great for me.

[daveg]

thanks for the feedback. My os is w2k as mentioned earlier :)
Ulead allows me to capture any size i like, it's just that i can't do anything with a capture that exceeds 2 gig in size. that's a problem for anythig over ~90-100 mins long as they are over 2 gig. Maybe there's a batch command or such like that can be set within the ulead program. I'll have to do some more digging.

daveg

[ggtronic]

ok DAVEG

had the same goal than you

i capture direct Svcd , and said to nero to burned it anyway
( for the same reason than you , "time" )
and work really good with Apex Ad 15OO

have you try this with your dvd player

the only one who can help us is probably Stinky with a
Svcd specific registry for mmc 7.1