VirtualDub Smart Deinterlace filter vs Xvid option

[StealthKing]

Which would be a better choice? I can use both, but am not sure if it will give me any better results. My source is a dvd which DVD2AVI says is entirely interlaced.

[manono]

Hi-

My source is a dvd which DVD2AVI says is entirely interlaced.

First, you're not really using DVD2AVI, are you? It was replaced by the much better DGIndex a couple of years ago. Second, it'll tell you how it was encoded and not what the source is like. There's a big distinction there that may be lost on you at this point. But the best judge of whether or not it's interlaced is your eyes. I'll assume this is from an NTSC DVD. Open it in something that doesn't deinterlace it. VDubMod is good. Scroll to a place with movement and start going forward frame-by-frame. If, in every 5 frames, 3 are progressive and 2 interlaced, it's been telecined and should be IVTC'd and not deinterlaced. If every frame is interlaced, then it was shot on video and can only be deinterlaced, if - if - you have to for an AVI or something similar. Both things, hard telecine and true interlaced video, will show as exactly the same thing in DVD2AVI or DGIndex. And for DVD it's probably best to leave it interlaced unless you have a darn good reason not to.

Which would be a better choice?

Neither. A much better choice would be one of the AviSynth denterlacers, such as LeakKernelDeint, Yadif, or TDeint.

If you'd like a more informed opinion about how to handle your source, let us know what the final format is to be and upload somewhere a small 10 second piece of the source.

[StealthKing]

I don't have much time to learn Avisynth scripting, but DGIndex was the program that told me it was interlaced. It is already at 23.976 FPS since I created a psuedo AVI with DGIndex and tricked VDUBMod into opening it. I have AVIsynth installed but never learned to use it. The final format is a Xvid file.

[manono]

So you Forced Film (made 23.976fps) an NTSC Interlaced video? Very bad move. By making it 23.976fps, you not only keep a lot of interlacing, but you make it play jerky as well. Whenever it says NTSC Interlaced you always make the D2V using Honor Pulldown Flags. Then after determining what the source is like following my tips above, you either IVTC or deinterlace.

But since you have no interest in learning how to do it right, I wash my hands of you. Good luck.

[StealthKing]

How do you determine whether you to Honor Pulldown Flags or not? Also, I've never used AVIsynth before.

[StealthKing]

Never mind, I figured it out. Just need to learn AVISynth before Monday. Thanks.

[Alex_ander]

How do you determine whether you to Honor Pulldown Flags or not?

Unless you see DGIndex showing 'Film' all the way at preview, you should use Honor Pulldown Flags mode to create d2v project file.

Just need to learn AVISynth before Monday.

Then you're on the right way , it will take 10 minutes or less to learn how to use 2 lines in the script for opening .d2v and e.g. pasting other lines from a template you find in some guide or forum post.
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/First_script

[StealthKing]

I still cant open mpeg2 files or .d2v files. I'm trying DJRumpy's guide to convert DVD to AVI using VDUB,DVD2AVI, and AVISynth. I get an error saying MPEG2Source:Couldn't Open file. I can open AVI files using AVISource though, I'm going to use Avi.net while I get this problem sorted out.

[StealthKing]

Don't know what to do now, I'm stuck. I can't open any .d2v files.

[jagabo]

Did you put DGDecode.dll in AVISynth's Plugin folder? Or are you loading the plugin manually?

[StealthKing]

I didnt put DGDecode.dll in it, I used the MPEG2Dec3.dll
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic221896.html says
"The first thing we want to do is open the D2V project file we created in Step 2, with AVISynth. We do this using the MPEG2DEC3 plugin we previously placed in our AVISynth 2.5 Plugins directory. "
I got this in the avs script. When I drag it into VDUB, it gives me an error "MPEG2Source:Couldn't Open File" on line 3

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")

MPEG2Source("C:\Documents and Settings\Stealthking\Desktop\FUNNY_MOVIE_1\CLAD\Mo vie1.d2v")

[jagabo]

Did you move the D2V and/or MPG file after running DGIndex?

[StealthKing]

I didn't change anything. I can open AVI files, just not .d2v files.

[rbatty11]

I believe you need to use DGDecode.dll. Add it to your avisynth plugin folder and add the loadplugin line to your script.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll")

[StealthKing]

It is the MPEGdecoder plugin. I need one that works. I tried two and one seems to be incompatible and the other freezes when I drag and drop the avs onto VDUB or WMP.

[StealthKing]

Sorry, I got it sorted out, I just used the one that came with the DGIndex prog and it works. I am tired and need sleep after working all night lol. Thanks.

[jagabo]

It sounds like you have a mix of incompatible versions of the DG modules. Uninstall what you have, download DGDecode and DGIndex as a package (link below) and install it. Get rid of your D2V file and run DGIndex again.

http://avisynth.org/warpenterprises/files/dgmpgdec148_20060720.zip

<edit> Ah, I see you got it while I was typing this out. </edit>