Ripit4me site

[mickish]

Does anyone know why the Ripit4me.org has been down for the last few days.

[Jim44]

It's gone, according to folks over at Digital Video Forums:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=521197&postcount=20

Jim

[somebodeez]

Here's a link to the whole thread:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=80011

All we can do, I guess is wait and see.

[SCDVD]

Does anyone have any info on what is going on with RipIt4Me? Digital Digest seems pretty testy about it whatever it is. They locked the thread mentioned above.

[somebodeez]

They seem pretty testy about it at Doom's too, especially a moderator who mods at both forums.
(but I find Doom's forums to be pretty testy over a lot of things so that's nothing new )
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112939&page=13

Apparently, it's some big mystery that "they" (whoever "they" are) are hell bent on keeping it a secret. I imagine word will come out eventually.

[somebodeez]

Less Testy Discussion at CD Freaks
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=214535&page=1&pp=25

[SCDVD]

My hunch is that the author of RipIt4Me and Digital Digest are one and the same - at least they are joined at the hip. Discussion and speculation don't break any laws. But if Digital Digest is "on the inside" with respect to RipIt4Me, it could explain their extreme reaction.

[somebodeez]

Seems quite plausible...

They don't seem to understand though that the result of their extreme reaction and testiness is causing exactly what they say they didn't want.
People are naturally quite concerned and curious. All this did was elevate it.

[dphirschler]

Well, it looks like it is no April Fools joke. It appears that there is some dispute happening either over RipIt4Me or its relationship to DVD Decrypter. Hopefully it gets resolved soon and the project continues. But if it is all over, then it is truly sad. RipIt4Me is some great software.

BTW, thanks, somebodeez, for posting links to the various discussions.


Darryl

[somebodeez]

You're very welcome.
Maybe some concrete news will surface at one of them, if not here.

I agree -

Hopefully it gets resolved soon and the project continues. But if it is all over, then it is truly sad. RipIt4Me is some great software.

[Marvingj]

Almost every site or forum that giving a link to download the "RipiT4Me" have been blocked:

Try to download it from here and see what happen.


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[rvelez]

That site doesn't work.
This one is still functional for now:
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[fritzi93]

Can't say I'm all that worried. The present version handles "Casino Royale", which by all accounts really pushes the protection scheme to extremes, to the point that some old set-top players have trouble with the original pressed disc. Reminds one of "The Forgotten" a few years ago, an early ARccOS protected disc that behaved similarly. Couple of crummy movies, BTW.

If RipIt4Me is no longer going to be updated, there's still the PSL2 plugin for PgcEdit. Or generate a PSL manually with DVDDecrypter, rip and run FixVTS/VobBlanker, recheck the structure with PgcEdit. But yeah, the whole point of RipIt4Me is ease of use, so it would be disappointing to see it discontinued.

[gll99]

there's still the PSL2 plugin for PgcEdit

Any working links for the plugin?

[rvelez]

You can try this:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8565&d=1154501233
It comes with an old version of FixVTS. You'll want to use the latest version 1.603
http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/

[gll99]

You can try this:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8565&d=1154501233
It comes with an old version of FixVTS. You'll want to use the latest version 1.603
http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/

Strange, some of the links I had found over there had been blanked out? Maybe it was because they were older versions.

Thanks. That one works

[Seeker47]

Almost every site or forum that giving a link to download the "RipiT4Me" have been blocked:
Try to download it from here and see what happen.
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detai...Me/1159478103/1

There is a lot of speculation that the usual suspects have been leaning heavily on the author (whoever that is), then waging a campaign of intimidation against sites that offered or linked to the program -- sort of like an unseen sniper has been picking them off one by one. As usual, there are foreign sites one can find that have not been deterred . . . but then you have to exert some effort finding them, and be cautious that the download has not been tampered with. A big tip of the hat to others who -- for the moment -- have also remained unfazed by this, such as
http://my.afterdawn.com/janrocks/
(and indeed she does !) but I do hope for their sakes that they reside well outside the U.S.

They don't seem to understand though that the result of their extreme reaction and testiness is causing exactly what they say they didn't want. People are naturally quite concerned and curious. All this did was elevate it.

Quite so. There seems to be a real story here, albeit a familiar sinister one, and we'd naturally like to know just what happened, but we never got much info about it when the powers-that-be leaned on Lightning UK, either. You know, the big surprise was that this didn't happen a lot earlier. I thought the jig was up when I saw people trying to sell this free tool to the clueless on homemade CDs. Way too much notoriety.

If RipIt4Me is no longer going to be updated, there's still the PSL2 plugin for PgcEdit. Or generate a PSL manually with DVDDecrypter, rip and run FixVTS/VobBlanker, recheck the structure with PgcEdit. But yeah, the whole point of RipIt4Me is ease of use, so it would be disappointing to see it discontinued.

Neither that plugin nor FixVTS has been updated in a good while. I haven't really looked it over yet, but there was this alternative-method guide
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/334154

RI4M was mainly just a really nifty integrating shell for pre-existing tools. Trying to squelch these things is a game of whack-a-mole. They won't succeed. I mean, Shrink is still around, and it's still extremely useful.

[BJ_M]

https://www.ripit4me.net:19638/webhost/rollout

[Noahtuck]

https://www.ripit4me.net:19638/webhost/rollout

What's that ?

I don't get anything... just say's can't find or connect to the address.

[fritzi93]

I've wondered for some time why RipIt4Me required such frequent updates. Do the updates actually include updated PSLs, along the lines of DVDFabDecrypter or AnyDVD updates?

It's true that the PSL2 plugin for PgcEdit has not been updated very often. (Doesn't really need to be, someone correct me if I'm wrong). Anyone who has manually created a PSL2 file knows it's a bit of a bother and takes a good bit of time to set DVDDecrypter to ignore read errors, rip, open the log, edit it, save the PSL, import the Protected Sectors List back to DVDDecrypter, and rip again. The PSL2 plugin just automates the process, but it still takes considerable time to accomplish. After that, it's just a matter of "cleanup". RipIt4Me, OTOH, is blazing fast by comparison in "creating" (?) the PSL.

IIRC, the next-to-last version of DVDDecrypter included PSLs of the early ARccOS discs. The final version included updated PSLs, along with the ability to create and import PSLs. Haven't done one in awhile (mainly because ARccOS protected movies are such uniformly awful movies, and I rarely buy them), but I'm willing to bet there's no disc I can't cleanly rip, either manually with DVDDecrypter or PgcEdit/PSL2 Plugin, followed by FixVTS or VobBlanker, take your pick. To be certain, open the ripped files in PgcEdit and have a look at the structure.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to get the real story about this, assuming we ever do.

[BJ_M]

there was a site up there for a little while - as at http *.net --- now it is being redirected as if someone is setting up a site and is testing ...


*.com is also (as mentioned before) being used ....

[Marvingj]

The ripit site is down but that could be carrying it just a step further to make it more real. And the latest version is still available for download in a lot of places.

The support forum is gone but not the whole DVF site.

If it really happened I'll be like a whole buncha other people and hope that anybody with involved with RI4M don't have to pay any $$$$ or go to the pokey.
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Please do not post direct links to RipIt4me

You may link to ripper tools sites, but not the file directly.

Example:

http://riptoolwebsite/dvdshnk.zip

http://riptoolwebsite.com

[SCDVD]

The way RipIt4Me works with DVD Decrypter could be described as a clever way to continue to update DVD Decrypter in an in the back door sort of way. This no doubt made RipIt4Me a huge target for the Dark side.

[gll99]

Similar to other cases the only one that could be applying pressure is "Crappovision". The DVD companies are licensees so although they would love to see pressure applied they probably have little direct legal say except to put pressure on Crappovision telling them that their product is not worth sh!t since everyone and his little sister can get around it. The last time they did this they took over the offending site and scared all hosts off too. It appears that they also insisted on a cone of silence with threats of lawsuits to ward off criticism being levelled at them. That way no one can prove that they are the pile of cr@p of this story. Some hosting sites must have really been scared off to even stifle discussion of the subject. Some mods there seem almost paranoid to the point of telling members to leave and go elsewhere just for talking about it. They probably didn't have to go that far as long as the site owner stayed out of it.

This site has done the right thing by not hosting any software or directly linking to software that breaks css or other encryption and might cause problems for them and members in some countries where they may be illegal to use. With no direct involvement sites like this can discuss freely as it should be. These discussions when allowed to happen quickly peter out and people move on to something else.

btw) I'm not a linguist, "Crappovision" is only an acronym made up from parts of words I found while browsing the internet. Replace it by whoever you think it is. I have my own idea but I'll keep it to myself

Hope no one is offended, being a gentleman, I softened the words I had in mind because we are in mixed company.

[dphirschler]

Is the newest version 1.7.1.0 as reported here on this site or was there some beta test version released after that (just before shutdown)?


Darryl

[Noahtuck]

Is the newest version 1.7.1.0 as reported here on this site or was there some beta test version released after that (just before shutdown)?


Darryl

I thought 1.7.1.0 was the last BETA version.... but now looking at the changelog it show's 1.7.1.0 as beta then just 1.7.1.0.
I save all the version's so i have them all anyway's.. i have ton's of diff. version's of shrink & decrypter

Until we hear something "Official" it's all just speculation.... but it's strange anyone would go after them seeing as ripit4me was basically a frontend... all the tool's that actually do the work are still around & everything can be done without ripit4me, just a little more interaction is required

And there are other tool's which i use more that are basically 1 step to rip dvd's so i'm not too worried. 8)

[SCDVD]

Some hosting sites must have really been scared off to even stifle discussion of the subject. Some mods there seem almost paranoid to the point of telling members to leave and go elsewhere just for talking about it.

I suppose we should keep an eye in the news; We may see some of these guys apologizing and thanking "Crappovision" for their hospitality. That's the way it is with terrorism and that's what this is.

Over time, we may see some good come out of all of this. The tide of public opinion as well as official opinion (judiciary for example) will turn against these "operators" such as "Crappovision". We are already seeing this start with cases like Kaleidescape (see discussion thread here for more information https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=325586&highlight= ). More and more people are seeing that the motive behind a lot of this stuff is intended to thwart Fair Use rights. People do have a Fair Use right to back up a DVD that they purchase. When it can be shown that a new law in intended to foil an existing law, the new law is at risk of being struck down. The encryption schemes are specifically designed to thwart Fair Use.

I would say that virtually all members of this forum are against piracy. The pirates who copy movies and sell them are criminals who deserve to be caught and prosecuted. What these guys are doing has nothing to do with Fair Use; they are thieves. The irony of all of this is that it does little to prevent the illegal activity of pirates. Even if a "perfect" encryption scheme was developed that was uncrackable, the pirates would make an analog copy of the movie. With a little effort, they can even recreate a menu structure. Sure there would be some quality degradation but if the analog copy was made using halfway decent equipment, the video quality would be quite acceptable to most of the pirate's customers.

Oh sure, the movie industry wants to stop pirates; I'm not suggesting that they don't. But their major objective is to kill Fair Use. If you buy a movie and accidentally damage it, they make money if you have to buy another one. If you are a parent of a young child and want to remove previews with objectionable content on a DVD that you buy, they don't like it. If the preview is removed, they miss the opportunity to entice your child into buying a movie that you, their parent, object to them seeing. They don't give a damn about the well being of your child. Their ONLY concern is maximizing their revenue stream.

Time will tell what comes from all of this. It's very possible that the movie industry will overplay their hand and create a backlash that backfires on them. They approach all of this with a religious zeal that makes anything they want to do just fine in their eyes. They got bit with spying root kits for example. This was clearly illegal and they knew it was but their "Holy" objective allows them to rationalize that any stunt they want to pull is "OK".

[j1d10t]

It would be a shame if RipIt4Me was shut down for good. But since the newest version (apparently) got around the protection on Casino Royale, and that was the hardest protection to break, up to this point, I wouldn’t be too worried. Buy the time they come up with yet another method to try to stop people from backing up their DVDs someone else will probably have come out with another program.

[Noahtuck]

It would be a shame if RipIt4Me was shut down for good. But since the newest version (apparently) got around the protection on Casino Royale, and that was the hardest protection to break, up to this point, I wouldn’t be too worried. Buy the time they come up with yet another method to try to stop people from backing up their DVDs someone else will probably have come out with another program.

Yep, it would suck if they were shut down, espc. since it's basically just a frontend program.

And as i stated earlier.

And there are other tool's which i use more that are basically 1 step to rip dvd's so i'm not too worried. 8)

Someone else coming out with something new really does not matter... there are tool's now that are still updated as newprotection's come out
And if "The Man" could get to them i'm pretty sure they would have by now, espc. after going after DVD Decrypter a loooong time ago 8)