I'm running out of options here too. Avi2dvd won't let me choose an audio stream so I can't start converting. procoder and thefilmmachine take too long to convert. cce is fast but there's black space on the converted video around it for some reason. I don't want to use convertxtodvd because of the over scan thing it has. And tmpg doesn't work too well for me. I'm in desperate need of help and need to know what program I should use.
		
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	Please do not hijack threads. I'll split this off as a new. 
 
 You're still not getting it, are you? The "overscan thing" isn't a problem with ConvertX2dvd - it's a problem with how TV works, which actually wasn't (and in fact still isn't) a problem at all, until people started to watch video on computer screens, that don't "suffer" from overscan.Originally Posted by andre477
 Just because you can see the edges of a video on your computer screen, doesn't imply that you should see them on the TV. If there is important stuff going on at the edges of a video, it's either not intended to be watched on TV at all, or the creator didn't know his trade.
 
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	The irony about this is that the solution to the "overscan problem" is in fact the thing you are bitching about with CCE. The only way to get you image entirely inside the viewable area of your TV is to reduce it's size and put a black border all the way around. This is what FitCD does when it adds borders in the avisynth script. Yet when you encode a video with these borders in CCE, you decide CCE is at fault. If you didn't add the borders with a script, then you don't know how to set up CCE to encode, as I only ever get borders if I ask for them. Read my blog here.
 
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	How about - don't use any?!Originally Posted by andre477
 Why would you torment yourself and your machine with avi to DVD conversion these days, when standalone DVD/DIVX players are so cheap? You can have one from 35-40$. Just burn those avis to DVD and enjoy watching instead of being desperate, as you say.
 If you still insist on software conversion, there is a good one which you haven't tried yet - MainConcept MPEG Encoder.
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	Definately agree. Specially considering most commercial software solutions are in the same price range as many standalone DivX/XviD capable players.Originally Posted by Jeremiah58
 
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	sorry I didn't know I was hijacking a thread. The reason I don't burn them to avi is because I don't just burn these videos for me I burn them for friends and family. Around 10+ people. So I would have to tell them all to buy a new dvd player and I don't think they would all want to. And also mine has a feature where you can record from the tv onto a dvd so I would have to buy a expensive one at that. But I will try out MainConcept Mpeg Encoder. All the other converters I've tried the video comes out choppy or it will take 3+ hours to encode a video. I'm cool at 1-2 hours. 
 
 p.s. Gunslinger sorry if my text looks like i'm bitching but I'm not. The reason I don't want to try out fitcd is because last time I asked about this in a convertxtodvd thread someone was having trouble with the program and the problems they were having looked like a pretty complicated program to learn. I just didn't want to bug people here trying to learn that program(even though I already am this way). But if this doesn't work out I hope you can give me a hand in learning how to use fitcd. So I can stop bitching about over scan  
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	Try Ulead Movie Factory or Ulead Video Studio, both use a version of Mainconcept . 
 
 
 As far as the overscan goes this is normal:
  
 
 That's from a hi-8 so it's lot cleaner than normal. This hows up just about any analog signal that's been captured such as Broadcast TV, VHS, Hi-8... etc.
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	Whoa...I really feel like one stupid SOB for reading, reading, experimenting and reading some more in my quest to learn to do this conversion thing correctly. 
 
 I'm thinking seriously about giving up and whining now...  
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