175 hours on 1 DISC ?

[hitenmdesai]

is it possible ? ive seen a VCD with that much of data. the owner claimed... didnt actually see all of it but the video was of VCD quality

is it real hows it done??????

[thecoalman]

Impossible, to put it into perspective even if you drop the bitrate to about 450 you still can only get around 20 hours on single layer DVD. You might be abe to accomplish that producing a somewhat viewable file using WMV or Divx with a ridiculously low resolution, and framerate.

[yoda313]

Are you sure it wasn't minutes and not hours? 175 minutes is what almost three hours? That is much more realistic for vcd quality - 175 hours???? Maybe if the resolution was 10x10

[hitenmdesai]

thanks for the feedback

i will check the vcd and post on this forum anything interesting related to this..

thanks once again

[jman98]

175 hours is definitely wrong. It would take a bit rate of about 36 Kbps (VCD is normally 1150 Kbps) to fit 175 hours on a DVD disc. If you're talking about a CD-R, it would get even more ridiculous. Video with bit rates as low as 500 Kbps for MPEG-1 starts to become very vague and poorly defined. If you had a bit rate under 100 Kbps, it would be totally unwatchable.

it was certainly minutes, not hours, but you need to determine if the guy had a DVD disc or VCD disc. It is possible to make DVDs with VCD type bit rates. I've put over 3 hours on one DVD disc of some low resolution Star Trek fan videos that I converted from Quicktime to MPEG-1. If the guy has 175 minutes of video on a single CD-R, then he must be using KVCD and you can do a search on that. It's a crummy format that uses all kinds of tricks (unusually large GOP sizes, VBR video, very low bit rates) to squeeze more video onto a disc than should normally fit there. Despite what its fans claim, KVCD is not all that great in terms of quality.

[Nelson37]

I have this bridge you might be interested in.....

[hitenmdesai]

I have this bridge you might be interested in.....

??????

[Nelson37]

It's a joke, referring to the old fraud about offering the Brooklyn Bridge for sale.

You did not actually see 175 hours on a disk, somebody told you that is what it was.

They were blowing smoke, gilding the lilly, or simply lying.

[Cornucopia]

It would be possible, with judicious use of [PLAYLISTS] to make a much shorter movie SEEM like it was 175hours long (semi-randomly repeating sections, etc)...

Scott

[SLK001]

Maybe it was family videos that just seemed to be 175 hours long!

[hitenmdesai]

most ingenious reply from slk001

jokes apart i will find out the facts ive just got a chinese DVD that has 8 movies wiith the works (5.1, great pic qual, subtitles in 4 lang, etc.)

wonder how this was done.... will post abt this GOLD series DVD soon

[jimmalenko]

Jokes apart i will find out the facts ive just got a chinese DVD that has 8 movies wiith the works (5.1, great pic qual, subtitles in 4 lang, etc.)

wonder how this was done.... will post abt this GOLD series DVD soon

Quite possible. DVD-9 is 7.95GB or 1 GB per movie.

[guns1inger]

great pic qual

is very much in the eye of the beholder. Some people still believe VCD can produce great quality, or that KVCD is DVD quality.

[hitenmdesai]

just checked the DVD

its contains more than 800 mins of CLASS quality movie.
atleast enough to watch on my 32" TV. 7719 MB used.


using nero info tool these results were displayed

DVD Video
7.54 GB
2 layers
Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Nero Burning ROM
NTSC 4:3 Mpeg 2 720x480
Playtime 81 mins

note that the infotool displays playing time as 81 mins
(thats the 1st movie /track on the Disc)


guns1inger - do u want me to upload a small part of 1 of the vdo ???

[guns1inger]

Love to see it. The average bitrate is around the 800 kbps mark, which is about 2/3 VCD bitrate. At full D1 resolution I can't imaging it being anything but VHS or lower quality.

I'm also impressed that Nero has so elevated itself in stature that legitimate DVD production companies are selling commercial product burned with it's software

[lordsmurf]

I can't imaging it being anything but VHS or lower quality.

You're insulting VHS.

[guns1inger]

I can't imaging it being anything but VHS or lower quality.

You're insulting VHS.

Fair call

[hitenmdesai]

i agree with guns1inger

ur insulting VHS i still feel nothing beats VHS

anyways im uploading the DVD bit for all to c

[ronnylov]

VCD is around 10 MB per minute. The 80 min / 700 MB CD can hold 800 MB of VCD MPEG-1 video. So on a dual layer DVD it should just fit around 800 minutes of standard VCD quality.

Not that VCD is good quality but 800 minutes of VCD on a dual layer DVD is possible.

[celtic_druid]

This isn't VCD resolution though. It is full resolution and MPEG-2. Whilst MPEG-2 allows for better quality, MPEG-1 should still have an edge at really low bitrates.

[jimmalenko]

It is just me who thinks that this thread reeks of some new whiz-bang conversion technique ?

[Noahtuck]

i agree with guns1inger

ur insulting VHS i still feel nothing beats VHS

anyways im uploading the DVD bit for all to c

Me think's someone had better take a trip to the eye doctor

[hitenmdesai]

i agree with guns1inger

ur insulting VHS i still feel nothing beats VHS

anyways im uploading the DVD bit for all to c

Me think's someone had better take a trip to the eye doctor

read the I dear

[Carlingford]

Yes, that’s possible.

My wife bought a DVD9 contains 16 episodes of Korean TV drama. Company logo in motion while menu is static. Video are DVD H1 (352 x 240 NTSC @ 1800 Kbps and 29.97 fps ) resolution with audio in AC3 (96 KHz 2 channels @ 48 KHz). Audio with choice of Korean or Mandarin (China’s national dialect) voice-over. No extras. Choice of Chinese/English subtitle. Total viewing time: 15 hours 31 minutes 34 seconds. All technical data collected by running MediaInfo(http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/). Both my 8-years-old SONY (made in Japan) and months-young Panasonic (made in China) DVD player have no problem playing it. Cost AUD7-00 (just under USD5-00) with all-paper package. That’s peanut money per episode. You must drop your expectation to match your spending! My friend told me these stuff retails for five Chinese dollars in big cities in China. Even cheaper in small/regional cities.

Last month, My wife was watching another DVD9 given from friends at workplace. She told me that contains 20 episodes of Korean TV drama. Similar video resolution as this one; but fixed audio – all Mandarin voice-over and with fixed Chinese subtitle buried in video. Didn’t do any detail inspection. Guess that might amount to 17 hours of viewing.

[Noahtuck]

i agree with guns1inger

ur insulting VHS i still feel nothing beats VHS

anyways im uploading the DVD bit for all to c

Me think's someone had better take a trip to the eye doctor

read the I dear

Read the Someone dear
8)

And i think you might have missed the joke guns1inger & lordsmurf were making

[hitenmdesai]

were veering off topic

neways tried splitting the .vob file using 2 diff cutters. both said invalid format


stuck

[guns1inger]

Use DVD Shrink. Click on Re-Author and drag one title fro the right-hand pane to the left-hand pane. Once there, Right-click on the title and select Edit Start/End Points (or similar) and select small region. Hit Backup and save the results to your HDD. After that, all we need is the VOB you just created.

[Nelson37]

Gee, we have gone from 175 hours all the way down to a little over 12.

And I bet it still sucks.

Where's the Super Whizzo 3000 software pitch?

[guns1inger]

I'm still waiting for the promised sample . . . . .

[lordsmurf]

I'm still waiting for the promised sample . . . . .

Just let somebody punch you in the eye while watching a VCD.