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    Can anyone recommend a good defragmenter? The one included with Windows XP doesn't do a complete job. I'm looking for one that puts all file pieces together and move everything to the first tracks on the hard disc. I realize that this process takes longer but it's still worth doing.
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    http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp : Diskeeper is the company Microsoft licensed the basic tech from for NT4's defrag tool, and haven't really done much with it since. Don't let this put you off, as Diskeeper is a very good defrag tool.

    Another one worth looking at is O&O's defragmenter -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag/
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    Also look for PowerDefragmenter....it only works on XP though.
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    Originally Posted by hech54
    Also look for PowerDefragmenter....it only works on XP though.
    http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1386746#post1386746

    Powerdefragmenter - Contig is a great combination.

    As you have mentioned I have defragged using DK and O&O and there have been times when they have not defragged completely. DK is a pain as its .msi file is always busting.

    Using Powerdefragmenter - Contig and then re-analysing and the defrag count is zero. Not bad

    So for those stubborn fragmented files that occasionally cause problems for the bit hitters in defragmentation Powerdefragmenter - Contig is an excellent combination and addition as a standalone freeware defragger.

    Obviously, Powerdefragmenter - Contig it is freeware, so there is no scheduling, it will defrag files contiguously but not based on most accessed files or by name (makes Windows quicker as these are the files accessed first on boot up and so forth) etc – normally used workstations or those using databases with frequent but small file changes that results in a higher fragmentation count. It will not defrag a fragmented Master File Table (MFT) for a NTFS file system and it will not carry out offline defragmentation of locked system files etc.

    Nonetheless, it is a fantastic combination and a worthy addition for any one.

    Power Defragmenter is a friendly user interface that helps you defrag your files, folders or disks easily. Before I tell you more about its features, I have to explain the installation process a bit.

    After downloading the archive you have to place the files together with Contig.exe in order to run. When you start Power Defragmenter it checks if Contig is present, and if not, you will be taken to the download page. Once the download is complete, you have to place Contig in the same location as its GUI and we're done! Don't worry about download times, both files are under 1MB in size. ...

    Click the link to read more >>> http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/windows/Power-Defragmenter-Review-25891.shtml
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  5. Originally Posted by SCDVD
    Can anyone recommend a good defragmenter? The one included with Windows XP doesn't do a complete job. I'm looking for one that puts all file pieces together and move everything to the first tracks on the hard disc. I realize that this process takes longer but it's still worth doing.
    I've been using PerfectDisk, but I'm using version 6.
    The latest version is 8.

    It moves the unused files to the beginning and the most used
    files to the end, and visa-versa.

    It defrags offline, boot files, etc. It has a scheduler.

    You can read reviews at Google, and here is the website.....

    http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/

    I'm not saying that it works the best, just that I'm using it!

    By the way, reviews can also be read at Amazon!

    Moderators....... Should this thread be moved to the Computer forum???
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  8. Originally Posted by lacywest
    Originally Posted by hech54
    Also look for PowerDefragmenter....it only works on XP though.
    http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1386746#post1386746

    Using Powerdefragmenter - Contig and then re-analysing and the defrag count is zero. Not bad
    Thanks, tried it and my results are the same. I had an older version of PowerDefragmenter, didn't know about Contig. It seems to be a good bit faster than PerfectDisk. Not familiar with any of the others mentioned...apart from the Windows defragmenter.
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    Originally Posted by SCDVD
    ...I'm looking for one that puts all file pieces together and move everything to the first tracks on the hard disc. I realize that this process takes longer but it's still worth doing.
    O&O does this if you use the "SPACE" method.
    The proggy has 4 different methods of defrag and "SPACE" does what you are looking for.
    and yes, it takes it's sweet ass time doing it.
    http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag/
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    For "complete" defrag, create an "Ultimate Boot Disk" http://www.ubcd4win.com/ which will allow you to create a bootable CD with XP (the techie term is Windows PE)and some extra utils, including defraggers. Takes a few minutes to boot via CD, but then all of the files which are normally opened on a regular boot can now be defraged as they aren't. (Does that make any sense? Sorry, I'm tired)
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  11. I'd vote for exec diskeeper as this is both faster than std xp defrag also can be used to defrag when screensaver kicks in which means that your system gets defragged v regularly. Can also be scheduled too, if necessary. (soopafresh idea also sounds good.)
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  12. I just started using Diskeeper 2007. It's a pretty good package. I used it to resize my MFTs which were getting very full. Then I did a boot time defrag which defragged the system files that cannot normally be accessed while windows in running. I then ran a full system defrag on my C drive which has about 30GB of data on it and Windows was showing about 13% fragmentation before installing Diskeeper. Normally that much fragmentation would take about an hour on this machine using Windows Defragmenter. Diskeeper took... about 30 seconds. That I could hardly believe. Plus it has intelligent invisitasking now. It will defrag in the background when your system needs it and has unused resources available without affecting what you are doing with the system. When resources start to drop too low it just stops defragging until they are available again. I can set here browsing the web and heard my HDD start clicking every so often as it kicks in. As soon as I open another program it stops until it reaccesses system resources. Not a bad program.
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    Originally Posted by ron spencer

    For the PowerDefragmenter ... I only provided the links for you ... I have no idea how well it works ... but the suggestion for VoptXP ... that one I do like ... I've used it.
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  14. Oh just for the record I'm using the Pro Premier version of Diskeeper.
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  15. Okay, I can no longer recommend Diskeeper 11/2007 right now. I've found a few bugs in it.

    1) InvisiTask enabled is causing stutter in various games. Screen flicker mainly.

    2) I cannot use Safely Remove hardware because DK keeps accessing the pen drive. I have to disable the service first.

    Similar topics on these problems found on Wilderssecurity.com
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    Here's another free one, in German, but run the readme through babelfish and you'll get a pretty good translation. Very small, scriptable, plus gives very detailed results.


    ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/hdtool11.zip

    Babelfish translation of first paragraph:

    About the sense and nonsense of the linear placing of files (Defragmentierung) can be argued splendid. With FragUtil you can after-feel actual fragmenting of individual files and observe with HDiskPerf their effect with plattenzugriffen. HDiskDefrag is a simple program for the Defragmentierung of plates, which we make available as extra. Assistance for the employment of the programs and the evaluation of the spent data find you in the article.
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    The problem with DiskKeeper is that it "gives up" after a single pass, where it may not move everything that's needed. The paid version has a "set it and forget it" option where it run basically run itself through continuously until there are no frags at all, but it's kinda tedious. The lite version lacks the "set it" function and will only run through once. You have to push the button to make it run again.
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  18. Fixed one issue and maybe ruled out another in Diskeeper. As far as removable media, you have to go into configuration and untick the option to autodetect and scan new volumes. Something that causes issues like this should be Disabled by default.

    InvisiTask doesn't seem to be the culprit of my game stutters after all. I have to lower Hardware acceleration to get them to clear out, even though it's run fine for several months now at maximum acceleration. I'm wondering if installing IE7 tweaked something in DirectX that is causing me issues.
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  19. I tried Diskeeper Pro, but the PC locked up when I was
    moving a large video file. That never happened before.

    I had Auto Defrag turned on so maybe the file was being
    defragged at the time??? Maybe somebody knows the answer!

    Also, my Turtle Beach control is messed up. I noticed that one of the
    files is in the fragged list, but never was before.

    I noticed that Diskeeper takes over the Windows defragger. When I
    opened the Windows defragger the Diskeeper program popped up!

    I'll keep using PerfectDisk. I can defrag manually
    or schedule it.

    (The new version of PerfectDisk can Auto Defrag like Diskeeper).

    Like they say, 'If it ain't broke............'!!!
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    I used to use Diskkeeper but it never defragged completly and refused to defragment on systems with low disk space left.

    I switched to PerfectDisk and it defrags even when the drive is nearly full. It can take awhile but it works. I've switched to version 8 from 7 and it seems faster. 7 was too slow.

    Diskkeeper always found a way to run right in the middle of working on something or durign a game. I tried the latest one to see if I would go back and the system took a hit in performance. That's when I went back to PD 8.

    I've never tried O & O, but a lot of people seem to recommend it.

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    Another vote for Diskeeper here. I run the x64 version of Pro Premier. It works great! There are various different types of defragmentation it can do, including the boot time defrag - which can defrag your paging files for you. I schedule each of my drives to defrag continuously for an hour each night, and they all look beautiful every morning.
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    I downloaded the trial version of Diskeeper and spent the next 3 hours tracking down and fixing all the problems it caused in my system...
    Thumbs down from me.
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  23. I'll add this, and maybe it will save somebody some problems someday.....

    I just bought Perfectdisk version 8, but my drives wouldn't show up.

    Here is the fix......

    http://www.raxco.com/support/windows/kb_details.cfm?kbid=544&issue=40

    For somebody in the future...

    Search words... Perfectdisk drives not recognized won't display appear
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Another one worth looking at is O&O's defragmenter -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag/
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    Originally Posted by SCDVD
    Can anyone recommend a good defragmenter? The one included with Windows XP doesn't do a complete job. I'm looking for one that puts all file pieces together and move everything to the first tracks on the hard disc. I realize that this process takes longer but it's still worth doing.
    I'd agree with those who recommend Diskeeper that its a wonderful utility, their newest version is very good. I also tried out this freeware of theirs which helps detect fragmentation over networks http://www.downloadjunction.com/product/store/30073/index.html
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    Originally Posted by Faustus
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    Another one worth looking at is O&O's defragmenter -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag/
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    only one you should use -- very very good
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    PerfectDisk 8 all the way.
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  29. Freeware defragger comparo

    http://techsupportalert.com/review-free-defraggers.htm

    I use Auslogics Disk Defrag 1.1, &it seems to work as advertised.
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    Originally Posted by CBC
    Freeware defragger comparo

    http://techsupportalert.com/review-free-defraggers.htm

    I use Auslogics Disk Defrag 1.1, &it seems to work as advertised.
    I use JkDefrag, which is one the free defraggers examined in the article. I can't see to find the post or remember who posted, but I found out about this degragger a few months back from a post here. If interested you can get it here, http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/
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