Burning Freeview mpeg2 to dvd

[disrember]

Hi, I have a DVBt-Plus kworld adapater and have recorded a few programs using this from uk digital televison. The adaptor records them as pal mpeg2 25frame rate, 704 x 576, dolby 2.

The problem is that when I burn them onto nero it ensists on recoding them.. which takes ages. Is there are setting on there which will avoid this (I have tried to match it as near as possible), can i set nero so it matches the files? is there a simpler program for this?

iain

[Baldrick]

Tmpgenc dvd author, very easy to use and does not reconvert.

Or try a free tool like guifordvdauthor, dvdauthorgui or visit our Tools page and click on Authoring(DVD).

[Bjs]

Strange idea , it has to convert from mpeg2 to dvd file form ... or burn as data .

Mpeg2 need's to be authored first for actual dvd ... preferably from demultiplexed stream's

Dvdauthogui website , and while your there , grab the batchdemux tool (demux's mpeg2 into seperate m2v and audio stream)
Dump the audio , keep the m2v ... now that I know how it dose it .
Open the mpeg in virtualmod .
Set audio to full processing , no compression , conversion to 48kz 16bit stereo ... save as wav
Convert this audio wav to ac3 using besweet .

Now grab the gimp , so you can make background menu's ... for pal the size is 720x576 for d1 res ... save as jpg format .
Ctrl + S , now locate menu background , set for 12 , and let it rip ... repeat for other's .

First , set the format type ... pal
All you need do is add first title ... m2v , then ac3
Followed by heading to make your menu's .
Add button's as required and link them to the required title or menu .
Accept when you think it's ok .

Back in gui hit "nav commands" button up in the middle .
Click on title in list , down to lower right , point it back at menu1 , accept .

Author it to folder .

Playback in avs dvd player or koolplaya (you might want the ac3_filter pack to hear audio)
If all's well , burn with imgburn to dvd-r (verbatim) at 4x , and enjoy .

Hopefully you dont approach the 4.3gig limit for compatability for all unit's .

Enjoy

If the mpeg m2v has issue's during the authoring stage , a simple script in avisynth can be created to load the m2v into quenc for quick re-encoding ... which would fix the issue .

[Hal_loe]

This is one of the reason's I gave up with Nero ages ago.

It even wants to re-encode compliant MPEG2 files.

It is possible just like the files from my PC DVB-T tuner that the files aren't 100% correct.

The usual sign is the they have the incorrect bitrate when checked with many programs on a PC, such as AVICodec or GSpot.

I use VideoRedo to edit them, which corrects the file header.

Then author / burn with TMPGEnc DVD Author, version 1.6 of which has no re-encoding engine.

Hope that helps.

[mats.hogberg]

My DVB-T recordings also show up with "wrong" bitrate - like 10.000 kbps. TDA complains, but will author as DVD nevertheless. The DVDs play perfectly on mu player. (If I calc the bitrate from file size, I end up with ~5000 kbps video)

/Mats

[Sartori]

I have a KWorld DVB adapter card (which produces a lovely capture I must say) but it doesnt necessarily record at 704 x 576 , it will record at whatever the stream is broadcast as , some of the streams are broadcast at weird non-dvd resolutions . I think it was E4 was broadcsting at 400 x 576 during the V Festival , which would need re-encoding for DVD but E4+1 broadcast it at 720x576 (ie DVD Compliant) .
I know it looks in the preferences that you can set the capture resolution but you can`t , its set by the transmission .
As I remember , when it initially tunes into the channel it will tell you what the resolution is , have a play around on the different channels and see what comes up , the sound would be in MP2 form as well , not dolby .

As mentioned by Baldrick , TMPG DVD Author accepts my (dvd compliant) stream captures with no problem at all .

[Hal_loe]

I have a KWorld DVB adapter card (which produces a lovely capture I must say) but it doesnt necessarily record at 704 x 576 , it will record at whatever the stream is broadcast as , some of the streams are broadcast at weird non-dvd resolutions . I think it was E4 was broadcsting at 400 x 576 during the V Festival , which would need re-encoding for DVD but E4+1 broadcast it at 720x576 (ie DVD Compliant) .

The main resolutions used are 544x576, 704x576 and 720x576.

The main problem can be Film4 which uses a non standard GOP size,

Non standard resolutions can be Authored using TMPGEnc DVD Author with a few tricks.

If you patch the entire video file to a Resolution of 704x576 or 720x576 using DVD Patcher.
Then import into TMPGEnc DVD Author but before Authoring you patch the video Resolution back again, the resultant DVD will play on most DVD Players.

Help that helps.

[Hal_loe]

My DVB-T recordings also show up with "wrong" bitrate - like 10.000 kbps. TDA complains, but will author as DVD nevertheless. The DVDs play perfectly on mu player. (If I calc the bitrate from file size, I end up with ~5000 kbps video)

Mine are detected as a bitrate of 15000kbps.

I have found sometimes you get sync problems without correcting, they tend to need triming anyway.

Also I suspect these are still transport streams very roughly redone as program streams.

[Sartori]

I just checked a recording I made , GSpot says its 4541kbps , Media Player Classic and TMPG DVDA say its 8000kbps (liars) , the sync problem I had for a while as well , I found that sometimes if it stays on the channel for a longish time the sync starts to drift so I change the channel / change back just before I wish to record , my Sky suffers from this as well (but Im mostly recording programs with a max length of an hour though) .

[Hal_loe]

Sounds like the KWorld DVB adapter card software is correcting the details for you, I know DVB satellite recording also get reported as a bitrate of 15000kbps by AVICodec.

VideoRedo even says when you edit a file actual bitrate is, when a transport stream / incorrect headed file is being used...

I know of one DVB-T tuner that actually formats / writes an entire DVD-Video disc from a Freeview recording it has made.

I tend to use the recordings from my PVR alot more than those from my PC DVB-T tuner card, it's just there as a backup.

One useful bit of software is the Freeware ProjectX, which will fix any stream errors for you, I've been processing all my Freeview recordings from my PVR with this and so far have had no problems.

[MysticE]

This is one of the reason's I gave up with Nero ages ago.

It even wants to re-encode compliant MPEG2 files...

Maybe in days past but current versions, both 6 and 7, have a 'Smart Encoding' option and no longer re-encodes compliant files.

[Hal_loe]

This is one of the reason's I gave up with Nero ages ago.

It even wants to re-encode compliant MPEG2 files...

Maybe in days past but current versions, both 6 and 7, have a 'Smart Encoding' option and no longer re-encodes compliant files.

TMPGEnc DVD Author has the advantage that you can burn files that aren't 100% compliant to DVD to test whether they need re-encoding (gives you a warning which you can choose to ignore).

I might have to give the newer versions of Nero a tryout to see what I think.

[noddy2007]

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