help encoding HDV using premiere 2.0

[densbucs]

Hello all,

I fllmed wedding a few weeks ago using my sony HC3 HDV video recorder. I'm using win xp with Adobe premiere 2.0. I've edited the video as necessary and i am ready to put it on dvd n distribute. However when i encode the video using the adobe media encoder i select the output to be 1080 or 720 it creates a mpeg file with not reporting any errors. Howeer when i play the file in windows media player it plays choppy and almost in slow motion.??? Hs anyone seen this before? and is there a fix or setting change??

when inside the media encoder and you can choose 080,720,480, there are different settings for each one. Such as 24,25 or 29 fps. Would any of these chnge the file output??

Thank you very much in advance.

[Baldrick]

Try play with VLC instead, it has a builtin mpeg2 decoder. Still same problem? 720 and 1080 mpeg2 should work fine on your computer.

Use same frame rate / fps as your source. Doesn't the hc3 hdv record to 24fps progressive? Or maybe it is 29.97 fps interlaced.

[densbucs]

Yea i do believe it does record in 24fps. I 'll have t odouble check the proerties of the source when i get home. Can windows media player not play these files? is tha why you sugessted a different media player.

[edDV]

The HC-3 records HDV 1440x1080i. It has no progressive modes.
The only alternative is standard 720x480i DV format.

[edDV]

Hello all,

I fllmed wedding a few weeks ago using my sony HC3 HDV video recorder. I'm using win xp with Adobe premiere 2.0. I've edited the video as necessary and i am ready to put it on dvd n distribute. ...

Won't most people be expecting a standard 720x480i DVD that they can play in their standalone DVD player?

Are they ready to deal with HD MPeg2 playback on a computer? Advise them to play it in VLC "discard" (i.e. single field) deinterlace mode with so you won't have all the "interlace lines" complaints. It will play a bit jerky that way on the computer (29.97fps). Also most computer monitors will only be set to 1280x1024.

[densbucs]

so there is no way for me to convert to 720? I chose that because the end project size, rendered at these settings, was small enough to fit on a dual layer disc. Is there a noticeable difference fom 720 to 480? I always thought that movies (before blue-ray) where encoded to 720 then put on dual layer disc. Is that not true??


I'll try it at 480. Are you guy familiar with the software settings themselves? And i guess i should turn off progressive scan. I did use premiere to burn a quick sample ( i just produced the dvd through premiere) and when it was played on my dvd there where jagged lines on all the people, especially when they moved across the screen.

Thanks for all the help

[edDV]

so there is no way for me to convert to 720? I chose that because the end project size, rendered at these settings, was small enough to fit on a dual layer disc. Is there a noticeable difference fom 720 to 480? I always thought that movies (before blue-ray) where encoded to 720 then put on dual layer disc. Is that not true??


I'll try it at 480. Are you guy familiar with the software settings themselves? And i guess i should turn off progressive scan. I did use premiere to burn a quick sample ( i just produced the dvd through premiere) and when it was played on my dvd there where jagged lines on all the people, especially when they moved across the screen.

Thanks for all the help

Sorry, but you need a project plan.

You have chosen to shoot and edit in 1440x1080i HDV format. How do you want to distribute this?

Some possible choices:

1. A normal 720x480i interlace DVD. Everyone can play this in their normal DVD player or on the computer.

2. A 1920x 1080i MPeg2 file that can only be played on a fast computer.

3. A 1280x720p MPeg2 file that requires progressive conversion in the encoder but may play better on a typical PC.

4. If you know that the viewer has a Toshiba HD DVD player, you can author a 40 minute 1080i DVD-9 disk in HD DVD format. I'm not certain if Premiere Pro 2 or Encore can do this. ULead DVD authoring products can in the latest release.


All of these are going to take a long time to encode. Do some short tests first so you don't waste time. If #1 is the goal, there is a trick that will speed encoding.

Step1: Record the HDV edited timeline back to the camcorder in HDV format. This tape will be your HDV edit master archive tape.

Step2: Use the hardware downscale capability of the HC-3 to output from tape in normal 720x480 DV format over IEEE-1394. This can be sent to a hardware DVD recorder (with DV input) or back to the computer for DVD authoring.

[densbucs]

Alright now i feel like i might get to somewhere. I gue recording i to back to a camera tape is good for the simple fact that you have an archive master. I was actually going to that at fist (let the camera do the down convert, but i read some where in a review that this type of encode would be better done on a computer.


Thanks again. This is very helpful.

[edDV]

Alright now i feel like i might get to somewhere. I gue recording i to back to a camera tape is good for the simple fact that you have an archive master. I was actually going to that at fist (let the camera do the down convert, but i read some where in a review that this type of encode would be better done on a computer.


Thanks again. This is very helpful.

The computer may do a better result but the encoding time is very very long and the user may not be able to see the difference.

I recommend you do a short A to B test before giving up your computer for many hours/days.

[densbucs]

Grat advice. I'll give all those options shot this week.