RipIt4Me: "Can't read Video_TS sector"

[tac7]

Just installed the latest versions of RipIt4Me and related programs, and in both, the 'Wizzard' and '1-Click' mode I get a **"Can't read Video_TS sector" **error message.

This happens with ALL DVDs tried. Couldn't find any references in this forum, but found a post in another forum (same problem) with no fixes offered so far.
I have not had any problems backing up dozens of DVDs with 'DVD Shrink' alone, but thought of trying out RipIt4Me just in case Shrink would ever get stuck with any DVDs. I'm using Win98se, but have not had any problems with any other ripping programs used.

[Spudboy]

Just installed the latest versions of RipIt4Me and related programs, and in both, the 'Wizzard' and '1-Click' mode I get a **"Can't read Video_TS sector" **error message.

This happens with ALL DVDs tried. Couldn't find any references in this forum, but found a post in another forum (same problem) with no fixes offered so far.
I have not had any problems backing up dozens of DVDs with 'DVD Shrink' alone, but thought of trying out RipIt4Me just in case Shrink would ever get stuck with any DVDs. I'm using Win98se, but have not had any problems with any other ripping programs used.

Can you include some of the log info? Maybe that would help someone pinpoint what's going on. Just a thought.

[Dv8ted2]

Honestly, I would try another program.

Ripit4me, relies on dvddecrypter, which is no longer updated. It will not help you with the newest protection sets.

[A_51]

Honestly, I would try another program.

Ripit4me, relies on dvddecrypter, which is no longer updated. It will not help you with the newest protection sets.wink.gif

I don't know what you are talking about! I just backed up my new copy of sony's ultraviolet and it worked great. To tested I went step by step on the process and check the movie each time. The smarts behind the automatisation process is great, so far I havent spot a bug.

Without a log the only advice is to make sure that Decrypter is working as stand alone or the hardware.

[Dv8ted2]

Honestly, I would try another program.

Ripit4me, relies on dvddecrypter, which is no longer updated. It will not help you with the newest protection sets.wink.gif

I don't know what you are talking about! I just backed up my new copy of sony's ultraviolet and it worked great. To tested I went step by step on the process and check the movie each time. The smarts behind the automatisation process is great, so far I havent spot a bug.

Without a log the only advice is to make sure that Decrypter is working as stand alone or the hardware.

My point is that a front end is added to programs that are not updated anymore and have hiccupped on the latest movies.

If it works for you, then great, but it will eventually not work.

This is only an opinion.

[MJA]

did u update FixVTS to version 1.4 ?

https://www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS/\


thats the point of using RipIt4Me to bring shrink and decrpt back to life

[MOVIEGEEK]

Try the latest DVDFab Decrypter.I tried RipIt4Me but went back to DVDFab D and DVDShrink.It's also possible that you need to install Adaptec UDF Reader.

[VegasBud]

tac7,

The problem is apparently win98se. In the phase before DvdDecrypter is called, RipIt4Me scans the dvd to create a PSL2 file for DvdDecrypter. The reading of the IFO's works okay, but as soon as RipIt4Me goes into its' sector checking section of code, it fails and puts up the error message you're seeing.

Since the error is in the RipIt4Me sector scanning, not the other programs, the PSL Plugin for PgcEdit might be another solution. I'm currently testing that on a win98se computer. It will probably take a while to complete (or fail). When it finishes, I'll let you know how it turned out.

[tac7]

The problem is apparently win98se...

Thanks, VegasBud, you are probably right. The other poster with this problem was also using Win98se. This is the log file:

I 16:39:08: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.1.0
I 16:39:08: Starting Wizard at 16:39:08
I 16:39:08: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 16:39:08: RemoveTinyCells = off
I 16:39:08: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 16:39:08: Rip Movie Only = off
I 16:39:08: Wizard Step 2
I 16:39:10: Opening IFOs -- Waiting for drive to be ready
I 16:39:10: DVD Volume Label: MOVIE
I 16:39:10: Loading VIDEO_TS
I 16:39:13:
I 16:39:13: Done opening IFOs
I 16:39:13: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 16:39:13: Can't read VIDEO_TS sector
I 16:39:15: Creating CRC32 value
I 16:39:15: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 16:39:15: Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS 1, excluding from psl
I 16:39:15: Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS 2, excluding from psl
I 16:39:15: Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS 3, excluding from psl
I 16:39:15: Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS 4, excluding from psl
I 16:39:15: Couldn't find absolute start sector for VTS 5, excluding from psl
I 16:39:15: Done creating PSL file
I 16:39:15: Wizard Step 3
I 16:39:16: Starting DVD Decrypter
I 16:39:16: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 16:39:20: Done ...
I 16:39:20: Wizard Step 3B
I 16:39:21: Canceled

[VegasBud]

tac7,

Yes, it is definitely a problem RipIt4Me is having with win98se. Since I hadn't seen that error before, and you mentioned you were using win98se, I tried it on a computer I have with the same OS, and promptly got the same error. It doesn't even matter if the dvd is home made with no copy protection at all.

My log looks very similiar to yours. What's happening is made clear by the 2 lines:

I 16:39:13: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 16:39:13: Can't read VIDEO_TS sector

Everything that follows is just the error cascade that follows.

The RipIt4Me author may be able to fix the problem, or maybe not, but for now, I have verified that the PSL Plugin for PgcEdit functions perfectly on win98se, so you can use that for the new "protections". It works just as well as RipIt4Me. It's just slower, and harder to use. Or you can follow MOVIEGEEK's suggestion to use DvdFabDecrypter.

Whichever way you go (for now), you should keep an eye on whether the RipIt4Me author is able to fix the win98se problem. If he can, RipIt4Me is one heck of a fine program (and easy to use).

[tac7]

Thanks, VegasBud.

I have not had to use RipIt4Me as a result of running into any stubborn discs --- until a few hours ago! *DVD Shrink - for the first time - failed to recognise one of my a home videos. *However after using FixVTS on the files manually, the video worked perfectly in DVD Shrink. *So a Win98 update would certainly be nice.

[Dv8ted2]

So a Win98 update would certainly be nice.

That may not happen.

Once Microsoft yanked support, other companies will follow. 98 is dead in the water.

You would be better off upgrading your operating system.

[Seeker47]

thats the point of using RipIt4Me to bring shrink and decrpt back to life

I'm still waiting to hear what functionality this new tool contributes that you don't get out of the Fab Decrypter then Shrink combo ?

[Dv8ted2]

thats the point of using RipIt4Me to bring shrink and decrpt back to life

I'm still waiting to hear what functionality this new tool contributes that you don't get out of the Fab Decrypter then Shrink combo ?

There is no extra functionality. It was just a hack to get dvddecrypter to work with the latest movies.

[TooLFooL]

decrypter was the best ripper out there,and obviously many people would like it to continue to be...

[fritzi93]

thats the point of using RipIt4Me to bring shrink and decrpt back to life

I'm still waiting to hear what functionality this new tool contributes that you don't get out of the Fab Decrypter then Shrink combo ?

There is no extra functionality. It was just a hack to get dvddecrypter to work with the latest movies.

A Hack? I wouldn't characterize it as a hack. It's quite a clever program, and shows promise.

DVDDecrypter is still the best ripper available. DVDFabDecrypter, by comparison, is simple to the point of crudity.

The deal here is coping with structural protection, which exploits the difference in how players and rippers handle files. Players can to a great degree ignore read errors, whereas rippers try to parse everything. Remember "The Forgotten"? That disc was pushing the limit, to the point of making even (some) settop players stutter. The last couple releases of DVDDecrypter included PSL2 files to handle early ARccOS discs, including the aforementioned awful movie.

Now, structural protection only inconveniences the ignorant. You can make your own PSL2 file, as described here:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=51810

The PgcEdit PSL2 Plugin method automates the process for you. Probably the best way right now to get a "clean" rip of a protected disc. Tutorial here:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56831

The advantage of RipIt4Me is it's simpler for novices to use than the PgcEdit method, or, God forbid, the manual method with DVDDecrypter. It also tries to distinguish between read errors caused by structural protection and those caused by dirty/scratchy discs. By comparison DVDFabDecrypter is a club, after 4 retries, IIRC, it simply treats the read error as protection. And it doesn't even tell you. Now that's minimalistic, alright. And RipIt4Me is not dependent on frequent updates to deal with new movies, like DVDFabDecrypter or AnyDVD.

But at this point the bugs are still being ironed out. Not all of them are the fault of RipIt4Me. JeanL has (kindly) updated FixVTS a couple times in the last few weeks. Many thanks for that, and thanks to the author of RipIt4Me. This is one of the most interesting tools to come out in awhile.

[Dv8ted2]

A Hack? I wouldn't characterize it as a hack. It's quite a clever program, and shows promise.

You say tomahto, I say tomato.

I was only expressing my opinion. :P

[VegasBud]

So a Win98 update would certainly be nice.

That may not happen.
Once Microsoft yanked support, other companies will follow. 98 is dead in the water.
You would be better off upgrading your operating system. :)

There is no need to upgrade an OS that does what you need. I'm typing this on a win98se computer that runs Photoshop just fine, and has a complete (and working) software development environment on it, among other capabilities.

I was only expressing my opinion.

Your opinion is opinionated.

Just my opinion.

[fritzi93]

You say tomahto, I say tomato.

I was only expressing my opinion. :P

It's cool. Wouldn't be very interesting here without opinions. Even mistaken ones. :P

[NiteLite]

Just installed the latest versions of RipIt4Me and related programs, and in both, the 'Wizzard' and '1-Click' mode I get a "Can't read Video_TS sector" error message.

This happens with ALL DVDs tried. Couldn't find any references in this forum, but found a post in another forum (same problem) with no fixes offered so far.
I have not had any problems backing up dozens of DVDs with 'DVD Shrink' alone, but thought of trying out RipIt4Me just in case Shrink would ever get stuck with any DVDs. I'm using Win98se, but have not had any problems with any other ripping programs used.

tac7
I run 98se and when the popup appears I just click ok and go on. It still works. However I haven't tried a new Arccos disc.
But the couple Discs I tried worked fine.
The program does say compatible with win98...even win95 but another problem is it wont move out the log files when you finish. I guess because win98se doesnt contain the folder dedicated to the move. Creating one in C:\ dosent work either.
I dont understand all the "crap" that DVDFabD is suppose to leave behind. I sure dont notice it on the finished product.
Nl

[Dv8ted2]

There is no need to upgrade an OS that does what you need. I'm typing this on a win98se computer that runs Photoshop just fine, and has a complete (and working) software development environment on it, among other capabilities.

Aside from the fact that it is old, unsupported, unstable, insecure and should not be on the internet, and did I mention unstable? You need to reboot every other day or it will result in a BSOD. :P

[NiteLite]

There is no need to upgrade an OS that does what you need. I'm typing this on a win98se computer that runs Photoshop just fine, and has a complete (and working) software development environment on it, among other capabilities.

Aside from the fact that it is old, unsupported, unstable, insecure and should not be on the internet, and did I mention unstable? You need to reboot every other day or it will result in a BSOD. :P

That's simply an unfair assumption.
I have run win98se since it came out and I do not experience the negatives you mention.
BSOD has been so long ago I cant remember the last.
It is not insecure if you take time to run an AV, Spybot, Spyware Blaster, Firewall, and other rules for any OS. According to Steve Gibson's grc site I'm running with every port in stealth mode.
"Should not be on the internet???" Surely you jest.
I find it very stable for my requirements. I do not need to reboot eveday just whenever I shutdown. It takes less than a minute to boot up, big deal.

I have had experience with XP home and want even go into the overbloated OS that takes 10 times as long to Defrag as my 98se. Or 5 times as long to run Spybot S&D as my 98se. And I shut down in a couple seconds compared to my neighbor with XP taking a minute or so. Also I like one click to my C:\ Drive...not the My Docs and Settings, with Admin, user, guest, friends etc. Having several folders that 98 compiles in one.
I can fill an 80gig HD with video files or whatever, delete back to my 5gb normal setup and defrag (using ME defrag) in less than a minute to 3 minutes tops.
Now this is for my needs and everything I have needed it does fine and as stated faster than my experiences with XP HE.
To be fair I know there are sites that advise on how to rid XP of a lot of bloatware and I know there are probably programs that may require XP for accurate use, but I havent found any in my needs.
I use Firefox and have IE as a backup. btw, I still use 5.5 sp2. what little I use it since I switched to Firefox a couple yrs back.
So instead of giving Gates a hundred dollars for something I dont yet need, I'll keep 98se and upgrade only when when my conputer starts up with the message "The internet and all programs will no longer work with Win98se.
Regards,
NL

[tac7]

"NiteLite: I run 98se and when the popup appears I just click ok and go on. It still works..."

Yes, I noticed that now. While I don't like ignoring error messages, in this case they don't seem to cause any problems once the DVDs are finished, and the discs seem to play ok. Thanks.

[VegasBud]

NiteLite and tac7,

Unfortunately, the error message is basically telling you that RipIt4Me is not going to be able to create a PSL2 file to feed into DvdDecrypter. If the disk you're trying to rip has sector based protection, like a lot of new movies have, DvdDecrypter's rip (without a PSL2 file) is going to be ugly (at best) or unusable, plus really slow things down by making DvdDecrypter put up a herd of error messages (one for each protected sector it encounters). Quickly making an effective PSL2 file is an important part of how RipIt4Me is able to defeat the newest protections, and at least for now, it isn't working for win98se.

If the disk you're ripping doesn't have sector based protection, RipIt4Me should work just fine, not only using DvdDecrypter for the rip, but also FixVTS for any needed repair/cleanup.

The reason I mentioned the PSL2 Plugin for PgcEdit is if you do try to rip a disk with sector based protection, the Plugin allows you to get a rip as good as what RipIt4Me is capable of. And it does, in fact, work with win98se without a problem. It's a good tool to have, just in case of a newer copy protection messing things up. It's just that some (maybe many) people have difficulty with the Plugin. Personally, I think it's great.

Another interim solution for sector based protection would be MOVIEGEEK's suggestion - to use DvdFabDecrypter. It's easy to use, and many people swear by it. It's supposed to work on win98, but I haven't checked it personally.

Once again, I wouldn't give up on RipIt4Me being fully functional on win98 in the (near?) future. The program has only been released for a few weeks, and the author seems to be working very hard on it. Hopefully, he will be able to fix this bug.

[VegasBud]

I dont understand all the "crap" that DVDFabD is suppose to leave behind. I sure dont notice it on the finished product.

"Crap" is kind of a harsh term for it, but there are some problems. One of the challenges with backing up a dvd is getting it to play on as many dvd players as possible. The closer a dvd is to being 100% dvd specification compliant, the more players it will work in. The farther it is from being fully compliant, the fewer the number of players that can use it. Just because it works on your current dvd player doesn't mean it will work on different players you get in the future.

Deviating from the specification can also cause problems in other programs you're using to do different tasks related to your backup project. For example, DvdShrink is very picky about compliancy. It can choke on something you can't see a problem with. Other programs can act up too.

The author of PgcEdit, r0lZ, is among the critics of DvdFab Decrypter. He knows more about the inner workings of dvd's than anyone on this forum, so his criticism carries quite a bit of weight. You can get the essence of the problem he sees from reading this, and this.

Finally, you might want to read this thread, in which r0lZ states his case in a softer way.

[NiteLite]

VegasBud
Thanks for all the info. It is appreciated.
the word "crap" was a term I read on another forum and came to mind. Yes harsh and undefined.
My four players and three other brands from family do ok with DVDFab created backups. Lucky, I guess.
I have had DVDFabD since it came out as a backup to Decrypter..
I understand that w/o creating the .psl file the benefits are lost even though it appears to work even on a suppose new Acr...protetion. When finished my .psl log is only one line. So I think the author of the program probably (as I've read on the forum where this is dicussed in great detail) was a little anxious when stating "compatible" with win95/98.
As I've read this would also explain the non-removal of files (save logs) since 95/98 do not have the path dedicated to the removal.
Also thanks for the links. It should make for some interesting reading.
Regards,
NL

[NiteLite]

tac7...
Looks like RI4M is not going to work on 98se as of now on any of the newer and few ARccOS protections.
The skipping the errors will work on a regular protected disk but from what I have been researching not the ARccOS due to not creating a proper .psl file.
Maybe an update will fix it since it is/was suppose to be compatible. Or maybe not since the author wrote it with XP in mind.
Either way the added FixTVS portion appears to add some cleaning.
Bascially, VegasBud nailed it in his post.

VegasBud...looks like the word "crap" I used came from The author of PgcEdit, r0lZ.
I read the links you provided.
Thanks tac7 for the thread. I learned a lot.
Thanks again VegasBud for the direction
btw, the psl2 plugin looks like a winner. I'm assuming one needs to install PcgEdit program first. It looks very complicated. Wonder if the automated psl plugin will run with DVDD w/o having to learn all the intricacies of PcgEdit?
Regards,
NL

[VegasBud]

btw, the psl2 plugin looks like a winner. I'm assuming one needs to install PcgEdit program first. It looks very complicated. Wonder if the automated psl plugin will run with DVDD w/o having to learn all the intricacies of PcgEdit?

Yes, for now the PSL2 Plugin for PgcEdit is the best tool to defeat the modern protections if you're using win98se. It may seem complicated until you use it, but it really isn't all that hard, especially after using it a few times. And no, you don't have to know anything about PgcEdit to use the Plugin.

Like RipIt4Me, the PSL2 Plugin for PgcEdit calls other programs for different parts of the job. It requires these programs to be installed in a specific directory structure in order for it to work. The Plugin installer available here installs the latest versions of PgcEdit, the Plugin, VobBlanker, and FixVTS, all in the right directory structure. Whenever a new version of one of the programs comes out, blutach updates the installer. You probably should bookmark the page while you're there so you can easily find it later for updates. The installer doesn't install DvdDecrypter, and (optionally) DvdShrink, so if they aren't already on your system, you need to install them separately.

Once it's installed, all you have to do is start PgcEdit, and the PSL2 plugin automatically starts up. The plugin uses a "wizard" style interface that pops up little windows at each stage that explain what the Plugin is doing, and any actions you need to take. All you have to do is follow the directions the Plugin gives.

[NiteLite]

VegasBud,
Great post. Your dedication to this thread is commendable and defines the "help" in Videohelp forum.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and instruction.
Regards,
NL

[VegasBud]

NiteLite,

Thank you, and you're welcome.