where's the video?

[zoobie]

I know streaming video doesn't download...but I just viewed an online .mov and was able to start over and even jump to sections once download completed. Now to find it in my box. I've searched hidden and system folders and only came up with recent documents. When I click on that, windows tells me it's been moved...but where?

[Forum Troll]

If you have quicktime pro, you can save the video directly from the player. That is, unless they disabled the save flag. It usually creates a temp file that starts QTTEMP or something.

[zoobie]

uh...i think when i closed the window, it somehow deleted itself...or something. I went back to it's page and it wants to d/l all over again...weird.

Well, I just wondered. I can d/l it onto the desktop the next time I guess...

Still...it should be around somewhere...unless somehow via streaming you can jump forward and backwards now....which i don't think you can.

[Safesurfer]

Read this recently re Quicktime 7 (not Pro version).

QuickTime 7 breaks the ability to save movie cache files for later viewing. Under QuickTime 6 and earlier, the cache files were in hidden folders, and saved with cryptic names, but were otherwise completely normal QuickTime files. Under version 7, they now have a .qtch extension (with normal file and creator type codes, though).

[junkmalle]

Try looking in:

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

Substitute your login name for USERNAME.

[Mister Flonk-Flonk]

Doesn't loading the file in your web browser then clicking file>save page as... still work?

[junkmalle]

Doesn't loading the file in your web browser then clicking file>save page as... still work?

Usually not for streaming video.

[zoobie]

I know it's supposed to be in the temp internet folder...but the search doesn't find it. I just looked and it's not there. Maybe it was my imagination...but I thought I was downloading it.

[junkmalle]

Did you look while the video was playing? The file is delete once you stop playing it.

[zoobie]

No I didn't...but figured as much. I'll have to d/l it again and save it tonight.

Thanks all

[zoobie]

Streaming doesn't work very well with dial-up and is more for high speed (18% US). Once the streaming is completed for dialup, it wants to start all over and re-stream from the top whether it's 1mb or 13gb.

Of course, an easy way to record most streams is with a camstudio screen cap and most Real media streams can be cap'd with r7c.

With dialup, wait until the streaming is just about complete...maybe during the ending credits or whatever....and slide the shuttle back to go and start recording the audio along with a screen cap. If you miss the first time, you'll have to take it from the top all over again since it appears to only play once per session.

[thecoalman]

There's a lot of ways a webmaster can prevent caching of files.

[zoobie]

You know, I got busy and didn't notice the audio wasn't recorded...even with a backup audio program recording.

Guess I spoke too soon. I'll have to dig up that thread on saving streamed video.

[junkmalle]

You know, I got busy and didn't notice the audio wasn't recorded...even with a backup audio program recording.

Guess I spoke too soon. I'll have to dig up that thread on saving streamed video.

Bring up the system mixer and change the recording source to "Wave/MP3" or "What you hear":

Double click on the speaker icon in the System Tray, from the Play Control dialog select Options -> Properties. Select the Recording button, then OK. Select the recording source.

[bugster]

unless somehow via streaming you can jump forward and backwards now....which i don't think you can.

You can jump forward and backward with some streams. Not sure about QT streams but some Windows Media streams allow this.

[junkmalle]

Be sure your IE cache is large enough to hold the entire clip.

[zoobie]

It's a .flv file I think. It's also 2 hours on dialup. I also noticed it played choppy this time when I had Audacity running in the background and it only plays once. I didn't think streaming video cached.

Thx

[thecoalman]

I didn't think streaming video cached.

Thx

Depends on the browser and what the webmaster has used to prevent caching. Just for example I have script for creating a music playlist on the fly. This script creates a random playlist but the filename and location remain the same. I don't want it cached because I want it to be random each time the user clicks the link.... a simple htaccess file disables it from being cached by IE or FF.

The same method is for images that change but keep the same file name. If you didn't do that the cached image would be used instead of your new image....

[zoobie]

I think I read in tools that others were wondering why a little program doesn't simply assemble the video piece by piece as it arrives over dialup. Maybe that's what some of the paid programs do.

A video I found to be instructional is on google which has a script running to find the .flv

If something actually worked for all internet files, I may be tempted to purchase it seeing as this problem isn't going away.

[spiritgumm]

I found where Quicktime files are stored during viewing (tho they're deleted once you disconnect from the source website):
C:\Documents and Settings\...Local Settings\Application Data\Apple Computer\QuickTime\downloads
I have version 7, so downloaded audio/videos get the .QTCH extension. I moved the file before I disconnected from the site (so it wouldn't be deleted), but because it has the .QTCH extension, my computer doesn't know what to do with it. QT won't play it. Any ideas?

[Ai Haibara]

Make a copy of the file and change the copy's file extension to .mov ?

[spiritgumm]

Make a copy of the file and change the copy's file extension to .mov ?

that was the first thing I tried. I've never had luck trying to fool the computer by changing extensions.

[Ai Haibara]

How big is the file? If it's under 100kb, it might be a metadata file rather than a movie.

Hmm... it might be a good idea to try getting information about the file in MediaInfo, or any similar utility (assuming those utilities support Quicktime media). It might even play in VLC (and if it does, you can get information on the file there, using "Stream and Media Info..." (Ctrl-I).

[spiritgumm]

Mediainfo doesn't "see" it. I think Apple makes it a non-media file. However, it's the same size as the .mov file which I downloaded via SAVE THE PAGE (click on FILE on the browser toolbar). So it must be pretty similar.
You might ask, if I've downloaded the .mov file, why do I bother with the qtch file? Because it takes additional time to get the .mov file downloaded for dialup users. It takes me 3 hours to watch a 10 minute video clip (which gets stored as a qtch file); only afterwards can you SAVE THE PAGE (the mov file), which takes another 3 hours to download. Obviously it would save time to just use the qtch file.

[zoobie]

interesting...
did you try playing it in vlc?

[spiritgumm]

I don't have vlc, and I don't know when I'll take the hour to download it (dialup, remember). Given the info so far, I doubt it would recognize the file. Someone must know offhand if qtch files will play on vlc.
On a tangent, is it easy to convert mov file to something playable on a dvd player?

[zoobie]

just read that vlc won't
but qt 6.5 or earlier will

[spiritgumm]

I uninstalled QT6 when I tried using QuickTime Alternative. I was trying to convert mov audio to wave files. When I discovered QTAlternative wouldn't do this either, I went to reinstal QT6 but couldn't find the earlier version online, so I'm stuck with QT7.

[zoobie]

I got qt 6 from a fileshare since it's old
I never found a regular d/l'ed .mov the other night
A last option may be to just buy pro for $30 although I don't know how it handles streamed video. May be a complete waste of $
Just another reason to forget qt

[Ai Haibara]

I believe you can find the older versions of Quicktime on www.oldversion.com .