my pc won't recognizes my hd

[chris_j11]

Intel 350Mhz
BIOS = ROM PCI/ISA BIOS (<P2B-F>)
HD = Maxtor D740X-6L

Everytime i start the pc it get stuck at:
Detectin HDD Primary Master ... (Press F4 to skip)

i pressed F4 and nothing happenned

I install the HD to another PC and had no problem detecting it and i was able to install my
xp pro, then after the xp-pro was successfully installed from another pc. i tried the hd again to my pc and still the same stuck as mention above

[Dv8ted2]

What is your jumper setting? Do you have the drive set to master or slave?

[kosekjm]

I'd be willing to take a stab at it and say that I think your MB maybe too old to handle that drive.

According to the specs of that drive, it says that it is an ata-133 drive, but if I'm reading your bios string correctly, you appear to have an asus P2B-F motherboard. According to that MB's documentation, it is running an ATA-33 IDE bus. I don't think those too are going to work to well together.

The other machine that you put this drive into and it works, what's the specs on that one? Again, I'd venture a guess to say that it might be a newer machine than the one you're trying to upgrade.

kosekjm

[Nelson37]

Are you running a PC museum, or what? That old thing is a paperweight.

[KBeee]

Have you gone into your BIOS screen to see how it's set up?

[Bjs]

You will need to use a program such as a bios overlay in order for it to handle the full size .

Mine was orginally from seagate , or samsung manufacturer's website (p133 + 10gig problem)

Unfortunately , they have stopped development of the tool and pasted it onto another mob to develope it ... so you up for about 40 buck's now .

The bios overlay program will tell you how to setup the bios first , so atleast the system will see the drive too start with .

Then restart pc , and boot it from floppy with bios overlay program on it .

It will then ask what os you are going to use , and suggest the best method too partition and format the drive so all of it is available .

When done , reboot pc and start install from os choice cd .

That's how you get old system's up and running with new drive's beyond the present bios limitation's .

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Of course you could pm me for further assistance on this matter if you wish ...

[aedipuss]

an ide add-in pci adapter should do the trick if you really have to get a pII 350 up and running. be forewarned that even if you got it to work no current software will be usable on it.

[INFRATOM]

Check the boot order, also maybe you left a floppy into the drive! what about jumper settings for this Old computer, are the cables well plugged in how about power supply cable.

[TBoneit]

My guess based on past experiences is that the drive is to big for the motherboard. Old mobos like that will lock up on detecting the drive if it is too big. Not sure if the Maxtor has a clip setting like WDs do to make it look smaller to the bios.

two cures a get a controller card at maybe 30 to 40 dollars and make a disk to F6 if installing 2000/XP or if the drive supports clip setting and then it detects XP SP2 will support the entire drive size. Or Clip the drive size and use a drive overlay program to use the full size of 80Gb



Ok from the Maxtor website at this page

https://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/enduser/olh_adp.php?p_faqid=48&p_si...El6L6i&p_lva=#


"Capacity of the hard drive is too large for the BIOS to support
Computer systems built prior to October of 1998 typically hang or freeze while auto detecting large hard disks during system startup. Common BIOS capacity barriers include 528 MB, 2.1 GB, 8.4 GB, and 32 GB. There are multiple solutions to work around BIOS capacity barriers, always disconnect the ATA and power cables first before entering the BIOS, to keep the system from hanging.
To troubleshoot these problems follow these steps.
Restart and enter the system BIOS to set the drive parameters manually. (Entering the system BIOS is usually accomplished by pressing F1, F2, or DEL right after powering the system on. Look for an on-screen message stating which key to press.)
Set the BIOS parameters for the drive from Auto-Detect to None, or Off.
Save settings, exit setup, and power the system off.
Save BIOS settings and exit.
Reconnect the power and ATA cables, power the system on and boot to the MaxBlast CD or Floppy.
When the system boots to the MaxBlast program, choose the Utilities option and select Set Drive Size.
MaxBlast will register the maximum LBA the system BIOS can accommodate. Agree to the recommended settings MaxBlast has supplied, and finish the process.
Restart, enter the system BIOS, and set the drives parameters back to Auto-Detect.
Save settings, exit setup and reboot to the MaxBlast CD or Floppy and run the normal install. When finished partitioning and formatting the drive, follow the instructions to install Windows. "

Download the MAxblast from this page if it didn't come with the drive:

http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/maxtor/menuitem.8db0c3d6932ced37294198b091346068/?ch...ndMax%20Family

You should be good to go following these maxtor directions.

At no cost beyond a floppy or bootable CD for the maxblast s/w.

Good Luck

[TBoneit]

Or to shortcut the whole long winded process just make the maxblast disk, set the drive type to a small drive in the bios and run maxblast should work too.

[Nelson37]

That PC is not worth the cost of a blank CD. Customers are currently throwing away up to 1.8 Ghz machines after upgrading. One is currently offering a 1.2 Ghz barely-used box in perfect condition for $20.00.

Anything you invest in it is money and time wasted, unless you just want the experience with no risk.

It is just simply too old, obsolete, and out-of-date. I wouldn't even bend over to pick it up for free, except to haul it to the dumpster if it was in the way.

[greymalkin]

wow that is pretty wasteful, 1.2-1.8ghz machines are still useful for many everyday purposes. If anyone wants to throw away their 1+ghz machine you should get with me first .

[Nelson37]

How do you think I got my wife, teenage daughter, and 8-yr old on the internet? Seriously, fastest one I got for free was a 2.2, needed some minor work but basically ready. The 1.8 needed a new HD. A 350 is not even worth opening the case, unless you want to do stuff like yank a card out while it is running, (which will work), or put one in while running, (which will not work).

The example I use for customers is like a cheap car with over 200,000 miles on it. If one day it does not start, you don't even open the hood. It's scrap.

[chris_j11]

again i got the best help here, all u guys are great
TBoneit > the site u provide r great
here's how i got it to work
i download the iso image for cd, burnt it to a cd, installed it to my master hd, turned off the pc, set the bios to not look for slave hd, turn off, installed the 40ghd (slave setting), restarted my pc (not getting stuck since it ignore the slave hd), started the maxtor program > utilities and from there it was straigh forward to enable my pc to recognize my 40ghd

voila, again thanks

[Craig Tucker]

The example I use for customers is like a cheap car with over 200,000 miles on it. If one day it does not start, you don't even open the hood. It's scrap.

And of course it means another free PC for a member of your family

[TBoneit]

Glad you got it working.

Nelson37, What you say is from one point of view. OTOH I have a computer here at work that takes maybe 30 seconds to start up and about 5 seconds to turn off. It is a real power house... Win95, 32 Mb, 1 Gb hdd and I it is a pentium not even PII. It runs my cash register and connects to the server very quickly.

We could modernize it, Go to a power hungry 3Ghz with at least 512Mb that uses more power and generates more heat and noise and takes much longer to startup and shutdown, Wait a minute it isn't broke, don't fix it. If it dies I'll probably pull out the spare 486 or set up an old compaq PII 350Mhz small footprint I can't sell because of no CDrom, It takes a special small size drive pop in one of the old unsaleable 512Mb hdds and back up and running.

I did have to do one repair on it recently. I heard a fan moaning and sure enough CPU fan was going bad.

Slow doesn't mean useless for many. I have fixed old 386 and 486 computers in the last year. Dos and Win3.11 systems. They run old software from defunct companies theat needs the older slow systems and old OS to run. They are usually machinery controllers.

For Video work, then yes, the faster the better.