Cis problems

[ultraman36]

Ok my old r200 the cyan cart never made it past the nozzle check. I brought a new r200 and just used up the ink cart that came with the printer now i attached my cis and the same problem is back so it not the printer but the cis. Ive primed and done tons of head cleaning and the cyan never cleans itself. Do i know have to buy a new cis?

[Denvers Dawgs]

Have you checked to see if the cyan hose is kinked along the way to the cart?

Is the cyan cart new or just the printer?

[ultraman36]

Yes i did there is nothing notted/kinked anywhere

[Denvers Dawgs]

seems as though the cyan cart is clogged? I'm not sure how to fix this.....I read somewhere to soak a cloth in windex and then put the opening of the cart on it to break up any clogs, but I've never tried it.

[ultraman36]

I put a syringe(without the needle) into the open end and drew out ink(like you do when you first get them to prime the carts) it still doesnt work this sucks i got it a little better than the picture about but not totally maybe ill try the refillable carts

[garryheather]

Your magenta isn't brilliant, either.

I'd be tempted to run a set of genuine Epson's through your printer in case you have particulates in the CIS ink that shouldn't be there. The genuine cartridges may have a cleaning action that will help lift any gunk away from the head delivery (bearing in mind the head is seperate to the cartridges, inlike say a lot of the HP cartirdges for example) and try and work out if it's the ink or a crappy cartridge.

I use refillable cartridges in my printers (the ones with rubber bungs in the top and self resetting chips) and although the ink is generally very good they do seem to benefit from a genuine cartridge every so often. About every 5 or 6 cartridges I use are genuine and it is sometimes quite surprising what a little "spring cleaning" will do for a printer.

[ultraman36]

garryheather where did you get your refillable cartidges from and what ink do you use?

[ultraman36]

I put my old epson original ink carts and the patterns print clear and clean its the cis cart (cyan)

[retiredjoker]

i had the same problem one time on my printonadime system and i just reprimed and it was all fixed.

[ultraman36]

retiredjoker thats the same one i have i reprimed it but it didnt go away ive wasted alot of ink in doint the headcleaning

[garryheather]

garryheather where did you get your refillable cartidges from and what ink do you use?

I aim to please...

http://www.inkjetmallhk.com/servlet/Categories?category=Refillable+Cartridge

http://www.inkjetmallhk.com/servlet/Categories?category=Refill+Ink

I've got these in an old Photo 870 and a newer R200 and they work just fine. I did have a leaky colour for the 870 and the guys here exchanged it no questions asked. Fast delivery from Hong Kong too (plus they sell on e-bay if that's your thing).

[ultraman36]

Hey are inks made in the Usa better than the ones made in say Japan and China? Someone told me that ink from other contries tend to foam(not sure what that means) the inks from say the Us or Uk are better. Anyone have any info on this?

[Denvers Dawgs]

What I do know is ink from china is not good.

[jtoolman2000]

Your two examples of the nozzle check look identical. I find hard to believe they came from diferent printers using the same CIS. Every details seems the same and siimply would not happen. There should be slight diferences bewteen the two even if the colors or cartriges affected are the same. I just cant see how you could end up at the same pattern. Anyway, you should have run the original carts that came with your new R200 printer so that after the initial ink chamber charge you could begin with a perfect nozzle check pattern as a baseline to compare your apparent faulty CIS.

Also be aware that every time you run a cleaning cycle, you waste a ton of ink and your ink counter climbs. When the limit is reaved youy printed will cease to operate. Unless you have the utility to reset it, you will have to send in to EPSON. Not fun. You need to do the waste ink mod and get the utility to keep your waste pad from becoming soaked with waste ink

Get it here:

http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

[garryheather]

Hey are inks made in the Usa better than the ones made in say Japan and China? Someone told me that ink from other contries tend to foam(not sure what that means) the inks from say the Us or Uk are better. Anyone have any info on this?

I've had good and bad from everywhere - generic inks can be a bit hit or miss and as with media, some suppliers change their manufacturers from time to time.

Foaming usually occurs with cartridges that have a sponge inside them. The problem is that when fresh ink is injected into an old cartridge, some air can be introduced into it making thousands of tiny little bubbles that take up space in and around the sponge. This can result in restricted ink flow to the heads but it also takes up space in the cartridge meaning it cannot be fully refilled.

Some ink recovers from this better than others, but if you've ever seen one of those wax-in-a-bottle shoe cleaners with the sponge on the top you'll have seen foaming in action and look how long that takes to return to the bottle (and the sponge is a lot more coarse on one of those shoe cleaners than in an inkjet cartridge).

HTH.

[ultraman36]

jtoolman2000 yes i get the same exact problem with the same cyan cart (means my old printer probably still works) Im going to have to buy a new one. It got better but the cyan pattern is still not good and ive wasted alot of ink. It did pay for itself so i guess i shouldnt complain but i just dont understand why. Oh well thanks for your help guys

ps i do have the waste ink mod thats how i know how much ink ive wasted

[jtoolman2000]

The reason I doubted your nozzle checks is that whether your cyan cart has flow problems or not it more than like not cause and exact nozzle failure pattern. Your cyan cart's inability to flow would not be at all related to your NEW cyan set of nozzle on your new priter. Your two paterns as shown are indentical to the slightest detail. Unless they cam from the same printer,,,,, but the way it was worded, I understood it as each being from a diferent printer. There are like 48 nozzles per color and a cartrige's flow problem would manifest itself in an identical manner in two diferent printer.
I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but this seems very intriging if what you state is true. That would be really a strange behaviour

[ultraman36]

jtoolman2000 i dont know the science of how inkjet printers print. Al i know is and i can insure you that i put my cis in both printer and i get the same problem.
I took the cis out again put the syringe in and primed the cyan cart several times then put it back in the printer(one i recently brought) When i put it in did a cleaning the result were picture a. Then i did several deep cleaning over and over again then got picture b. After picture b i gave up. I did want to have to spend more money but i went ahead an ordered refillable cart., from printonadime with some ink $80.00 with the ink. When i put the actual epson inks in i have no problem. this sucks

[jtoolman2000]

Your Pics finally make sense. The 1st set you posted at the top of the page were not these. But you still posted the same Pic twice. Same ink blotch on both. At least the two checks are diferent and yes, you do have a bad cyan. I occassionally get a clogged magenta on my original CIS from jsales or whtever his name is. It usually takes a forced cleanusing the SSC utility and it resolves itself. Hope you can get a replacement cart or system and that should solve the prob

[ultraman36]

Ahh now i see what you mean jtoolman the 1st pictures i posted are the same for some reason it posted it twice i didnt mean that they were 2 seperate patterns i hit the image button twice then put the file name in between and it posted the same picture twice. Anyway i ordered the refillable kit with syringes ill see how that works i dont know the science of how the ink goes from the cart to the printhead but i wish i could fix the cart on my own because up until a couple of weeks ago it was great