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  1. WD’s long-awaited update to the 10,000 RPM SATA Raptor has arrived! The family’s new bellwether ups capacity up to 150 gigabytes and claims to significantly increase performance while maintaining the line’s admirable power and noise levels. Join StorageReview as we pit the Raptor WD1500 up against every currently available SCSI and SATA flagship.
    To review: http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200601/WD1500ADFD_1.html


    Performance Specifications
    Rotational Speed 10,000 RPM (nominal)
    Buffer Size 16 MB
    Average Latency 2.99 ms (nominal)
    Contact Start/Stop Cycles 20,000 minimum

    Seek Times
    Read Seek Time 4.6 ms
    Write Seek Time 5.2 ms (average)
    Track-To-Track Seek Time 0.4 ms (average)
    Full Stroke Seek 10.2 ms (average)

    Transfer Rates
    Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1.5 Gb/s (Max)
    Buffer To Disk 72 MB/s (Sustained
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    Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1.5 Gb/s (Max)
    Surprised its not SATA II (3 Gb/s max)
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  3. Originally Posted by waheed
    Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1.5 Gb/s (Max)
    Surprised its not SATA II (3 Gb/s max)
    Its not important in this case, look on performance in review its faster from SATA II.

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  4. Originally Posted by waheed
    Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1.5 Gb/s (Max)
    Surprised its not SATA II (3 Gb/s max)
    That is probably something that a firmware update will fix. Most drives do not automatically come with SATA II specs. I have had to flash many drives to gain SATA II speeds.
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    Quite expensive. Checked the prices here in the UK, its retailing over £200. Thats twice the cost I paid for the WD 74GB Raptor.
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    72 MB/s sustained is too little for 4:2:2 SDI (or 720x480 4:2:2 uncompressed) and way more than needed for Huffyuv, DV, HDV or HDTV-MPeg2_TS, so what's the video application for such a drive vs a typical 50MB/s PATA or SATA drive?
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  7. I would have thought you'd eat all the bandwidth it has to offer up if you are doing real-time video editing in After Effects or something. However, can a drive actually saturate a 300Mbps connection? I didn't think they could physically work that fast.
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  8. Originally Posted by edDV
    72 MB/s sustained is too little for 4:2:2 SDI (or 720x480 4:2:2 uncompressed) and way more than needed for Huffyuv, DV, HDV or HDTV-MPeg2_TS, so what's the video application for such a drive vs a typical 50MB/s PATA or SATA drive?
    We cannot back up much on 150Gig at 270 MB/sec if it were possible anyway. I'd say it would be useful inline with real time converters to compress high end video to 50 MB/sec and 25 MB/sec. You can upsample later if needed.
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  9. or if nothing else, it would make for a heck of a drive to boot up your OS with (though kinda small by today's standards)
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  10. Nah, that's nothing compared to this:

    http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/

    (Look at that RAM drive! Whoooaaaa!)
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    Originally Posted by Cobra
    Nah, that's nothing compared to this:

    http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/

    (Look at that RAM drive! Whoooaaaa!)
    Max capacity, only 16 GB

    I dont think thats going to serve anyone's purpose.
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  12. Originally Posted by waheed
    Originally Posted by Cobra
    Nah, that's nothing compared to this:

    http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/

    (Look at that RAM drive! Whoooaaaa!)
    Max capacity, only 16 GB

    I dont think thats going to serve anyone's purpose.
    Then how about this,

    http://www.superssd.com/products/tera-ramsan/

    1 Terabyte of non-volatile DDR RAM
    Over 24 GigaBytes/second of random sustainable data bandwidth

    Interestingly, the basic warranty is Return-to-Factory!!
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    Max capacity, only 16 GB laugh.gif

    I dont think thats going to serve anyone's purpose.
    That's bigger than my current OS drive.
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  14. Originally Posted by waheed
    Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1.5 Gb/s (Max)
    Surprised its not SATA II (3 Gb/s max)
    Apparently we haven't saturated the 1.5 yet so why bother? According to their development thinking.
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    Originally Posted by waheed
    Max capacity, only 16 GB

    I dont think thats going to serve anyone's purpose.
    it could be useful on an 'individual project' basis. (ie. source & destination drive for a video conversion or something)
    high price to save some time, though.
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    Forgetting(or forgiving) the 16GB capacity what's even more sad about that is that it uses volatile DRAM with only a 160min backup power generator. If I loss power at my house it's either out for less than a minute or several hours. If I had important work being done on this drives storage I'd be counting the minutes until all data was lost.

    While solid state is surely faster than spinning platters I wouldn't trust my important data to solid state volatile DRAM.
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  17. wouldn't trust my important data to solid state volatile DRAM.
    I doubt any one expects to. Such a memory drive simply serves as a high speed cache. It could be for rendering, it could be for NAS; anything where speed is critical and a software cache is not suitable.
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  18. Why haven't we seen storage based on non-volitile solid state technology? Compact flash is becoming cheap enough, and despite the fact that it wouldn't be nearly as fast, it would have several advantages. I'm working on building a MythTV box to use as my DVR, and I plan to use a compact flash to IDE adapter and have the unit boot from a 1gb flash drive.

    In regards to the subject of this post: I could certainly see this drive being useful. It's quite a bit cheaper than SCSI (74gb 68pin SCSI drives are still very expensive...), and while one might not always fully realize it's potential in a conventional setup, it does have some applications. Imagine a RAID 0 array with a few of these, for example...
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    I don't know if my power supply is quite up to this.

    it says ... Requires 2,500 watts of power.

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    Originally Posted by Human
    Why haven't we seen storage based on non-volitile solid state technology? Compact flash is becoming cheap enough, and despite the fact that it wouldn't be nearly as fast, it would have several advantages. I'm working on building a MythTV box to use as my DVR, and I plan to use a compact flash to IDE adapter and have the unit boot from a 1gb flash drive.
    I't being done. Panasonic P2 technology uses parallel flash RAM technology to achieve >100 Mbit/s HD video storage. The only problem is an 8GB card is priced ~$2000.

    https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/sales_o/p2/
    http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/P2/
    http://www.vistek.ca/details/results.aspx?Level1=STOR+MEDIA&Level2=MEM+CARDS&Level3=P2...ryCards&cat=P2


    Originally Posted by Human
    In regards to the subject of this post: I could certainly see this drive being useful. It's quite a bit cheaper than SCSI (74gb 68pin SCSI drives are still very expensive...), and while one might not always fully realize it's potential in a conventional setup, it does have some applications. Imagine a RAID 0 array with a few of these, for example...
    Imagine a RAID 0 array with cheaper slower drives with 5x the capacity.
    For video the extra capacity is more valuable and RAID is only needed for uncompressed SDI.
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    I would only use one of these drives only as a boot drive for my OS (actually, I already do, I have a 74GB Raptor as my OS drive) and use any additional high capicity drives for storage as a second drive.
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    A Raptor will load the OS a few seconds faster and load game textures faster but with quite a price and noise penalty.
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    I've become so WD phobic (you should see the pile of dead ones I have at work), that I'll pass.
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    I just bought a WD1500ADFD. The one in the picture is a WD1500AHFD.

    These drives have the same electronics and firmware and the only difference is the plastic window.

    I decided to replace my Seagate 120GB disk drive with this faster disk to improve on my system boot times. At the same time I increased the memory from 512 to 2 GB RAM. With this to changes, my system really flies.

    Boot's a lot faster, and because of the increased memory, now it swaps very little.

    I Still have a 3 20GB Seagate Cheetah 10K RPM around and I was going to change my case and power supply support a SCSI raid 0 as the boot device. This disk was going to be an extremely fast 60 GB boot disk, but it was potentially a very unsecured device for a boot devices as these disks are quite old and were used in a production server running continuously for several years...

    Because of this I decided to go with a new Raptor WD1500 and I’m happy about this purchasing.

    It is funny, I never had a problem with WD disks, but several Seagate have died on me
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