Cyberhome Recorder at WAL MART this FRIDAY 25th.

[cloning is fun]

Anyone know anything about this? Supposed to be a CH DVR 1200 but can't find anything on it. Does it have an MTS decoder? Thanks!

[pinetop]

I was also wondering how good this one is. Only $70, so I hoping it would be good for backing up my VHS tapes.

[lordsmurf]

It probably sucks just as much as the 1500, 1600, and ILO 05 units. Nothing from Cyberhome, in regard to DVD recorders, has ever been worth a penny. If video/audio quality, longevity of the unit, and ability to accept media is not a concern, then buy away.

Pioneer, JVC, LG, LiteOn, all would be better buys. Even Panasonic would be a better buy, and that's saying something.

[MJA]

Lite-On LVW-5115 DVD Recorder $89.99 costco Thats a better deal than cyberhome

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[ashtones]

Lordsmurf im your opinion what do you recomend as the best all around DVD recorder with a firewire imput.

[rokvideo]

I tried one of these cyberhome recorders and the one i had got WAYYY too hot..it burned the disc but after an hour and a half show the disc was so hot you had to let it cool outside of the player before using it. Didn't want to take the chance of it starting a fire so i returned it and got an Akai recorder that i absolutely love!! Stay away from anything CyberHome...even their portable dvd players i hear run too hot as well.

[lordsmurf]

Lordsmurf im your opinion what do you recomend as the best all around DVD recorder with a firewire imput.

JVC DR-M100S

[slacker]

I wouldn't even use a Cyberhome as a doorstop. They're ugly as well as non-functional. I threw one of their dvd players in the garbage yesterday. Ridiculous.

I walked into Costco yesterday to purchase some cell phones and strolled over to the dvd players, recorders, and dvd/vhs combo units. As always since the beginning of electronics time (for me), there were only two brands worthy of purchase when taking ALL factors into account, i.e. build quality, workmanship, functionality, warranty, ergonomic design, longevity. SONY and PANASONIC. JVC was nowhere to be found, unfortunately.

For me, LG is a new kid on the block with lots of potential, but still unproven. I just purchased five of their cell phones. Love em! However, I have found their dvd burners (not dvd recorders) unreliable over the long haul. My HP (re-badged) Lite-On just keeps purring away.

And Pioneer they simply don't sell out my way! The last time I purchased a Pioneer was in the 70s, and that was a stereo / tape editing system. Awesome!

IMHO, everything else out there is a CRAP SHOOT! And personally I don't have the time to screw around to save a louzy couple of bucks.

I read today that Walmart's checkout error rate is 8.3%. Why would ANYONE want to shop at a store where they overcharge you at checkout, only sell borderline quality that wouldn't be caught dead in a REAL store, where not only the employees can't count, but the computers can't count as well? Ridiculous.

BTW, the federal maximum allowed checkout error rate is 2.0%. WALMART is in for some explaining!

[cloning is fun]

Thanks! I won't be considering the Cyberhome. Hey, that laptop is a good deal. Could make a couple hundred on ebay with that one...

[Tom81]

my experience with wal-mart check out error ....no wonder I was paying a lower price than listed on the aisle

[pinetop]

I have been charged higher, well they try to charge me, on condoms. I noticed if its a item the customer might be embrassed to challenge, its higher. Condons and tampoons I know for a fact were ringing up higher than the price listed on the shelf. My girlfriend told me she was charged higher for a femine care product, she didn't challenge it.

[MJA]

don't be Stingy when it comes to love man lol

[geospart]

This appears also to be the same as the relabled Target trutech TT1620, I now as of this morning own both. so far its a pretty good unit for the 68 buck price tag. Been testing it recording VHS and Cable sources using Matrix 4x DVD's and TDK +Rw's. It records dual like the Trutech, even though the manual states just that only +R media for recording. The first media I tested was DVD-R Matrix and it formatted it, so therefore it records both. Seems to work fine actually both these units work better than my now failing Lite-On 5005 and 5105. Did not even unwarp the remote as I am using the trutech remote. I have had more lite-on failures than anything, less with the trutech, we will see with this new one, but being it seems to be the same well...I doubt it..most people post failures with certain media on the trutech and there is hacks I will try later, but dudes and dudettes for the price tag this is a good dvd player as well as recorder so far.

[FulciLives]

Post some screen shots of some captures. This can be done by ripping them and opening the VOB files in VirtualDubMod.

Also if you have a computer capture card try posting some screen shots of the recorder's set-up screens.

People interested will appreciate this

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[lordsmurf]

The Samsung is $100 at Best Buy today and tomorrow. I'd get one of those if you want a sub-$100 recorder that is good.

LSI chipset, DVD-R/RW, should work fine.

[Racer2x]

Turst me, you DON'T want a Cyberhome. I should know: I'm tollerating one, right now!

[kenmasters83]

this dvd recorder has passed my expectations very well..

i will tell you the pros and cons of the unit since i have had since 5:15am this morning.

first the pros..

1.easy menu's with very very informative guides and directions on how to correctly use the unit..if you can read you shouldnt have any problems using it the machine..

2.the menu looks to be the coolest thing i have seen on a cyber home dvd recorder..

3.two inputs one S-VIDEO on the back and one composite in the front ignore another member who sweared up and down this unit did NOT have the S-video input jack..

4.the abiltity record in both fullscreen and wide screen..

5.LP mode is very very good..

now the CONS there is only one i know so far thats a major pain in the arse..

1.when the machine gets cold its IMPOSSIBLE to get it to record anything at all..and no i am not joking either i am dead serious..

either way i am very happy with my $72 purchase i also find that recording is a snap when using the pause feature during commercials..

at $68 with tax this unit as heck of a deal not to be missed it has recongized every type of media i have thrown at which is very cool..

also the 2 hour recording mode is OUTSTANDING for the price of this machine..

LATER.

[FulciLives]

The Samsung is $100 at Best Buy today and tomorrow. I'd get one of those if you want a sub-$100 recorder that is good.

LSI chipset, DVD-R/RW, should work fine.

I have a Pioneer but was curious what a LSI chipset DVD recorder can do ... I might have to try this for such a cheap price.

Assuming they have any left by the time I get to a BEST BUY tomorrow LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[BrainStorm69]

Assuming they have any left by the time I get to a BEST BUY tomorrow LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Don't hold your breath.

[FulciLives]

Assuming they have any left by the time I get to a BEST BUY tomorrow LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Don't hold your breath.

Don't crush my dreams! You bastard !!! :P

Actually I am getting my car inspected tomorrow and depending on how much work it needs (I am afraid I need at least 2 new tires etc.) I may not be buying anything

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[hiptune]

I agree of course that the Cyberhome DVD players are amoung the very lowest.

But I will say that wyhen I had a my first gig converting a PAL disc to NTSC, and Best Buy had it on sale for 27.99 18 months ago, I was thankful for it.

But it is bitter sweet story. The PAL original disc would skip a bit here and there. The progressive out was stunning quality, really good. The skipping was driving me nuts. So I burned a copy of this long movie with shrink (split to two discs so that it would not get re-encoded), and when I played my DVD-R pAL copies in this Cyberhome player, they played straight through for a perfect capture in NTSC. The new NTSC copies looked awesome.

Now I have used this machine for about 5 more projects. Now I know it is picky about some discs. And copies are not always the solution. Sometimes I have had to back and recapture the skip section and then edit it in where it goes.

So I got some work out of this damn thing, and it got some woirk out of me. I am ready for a good cheap JVC that tracks perfect on perfect discs. But the Cyberhome picture from PAL to NTSC is so good, they should get credit for that even if they are cheap and prone to misstracking.

What is the model number of the good cheap JVC that does NTSC form PAL?

[lordsmurf]

The Samsung is $100 at Best Buy today and tomorrow. I'd get one of those if you want a sub-$100 recorder that is good.

LSI chipset, DVD-R/RW, should work fine.

I have a Pioneer but was curious what a LSI chipset DVD recorder can do ... I might have to try this for such a cheap price.

Assuming they have any left by the time I get to a BEST BUY tomorrow LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

LSI chipsets are the encoding chips found in JVC, LiteOn, LG, Samsung, and a number of other machines right now. They not only record in high quality, but tend to clean the video noise, especially grain and chroma noise.

LiteOn filters tend to be strongest.

The DVD+R/+RW machines tend to use CVBR encoding settings, instead of true VBR, so the encoding is still cleaner than your average Panasonic or whatnot, but it's not as good as the JVC.

This Samsung should be true VBR use of the LSI. I looked at one yesterday, but I've dumped enough money into DVD recorders this year. I think I'm plenty set for a while.

[FulciLives]

@hiptune

You might want to try this website ---> http://www.220-electronics.com/

They seem to have the cheapest prices on the 'net for pre-modified region free DVD players. They are reliable as I know a variety of people who have ordered from them.

The have a JVC XV-312 on sale for $109.00 U.S. Dollars + shipping.

If you have a bit more to spend you might be interested in the Pioneer DV-588 which they offer for $179.00 U.S. Dollars + shipping. The benefit of the Pioneer is I hear that the PAL to NTSC is even better than the JVC (though hard to believe as the JVC units get accolades) plus it is DivX Home Theater Profile Certified. They also offer the slightly older DV-578 which is nearly identical but the DV-588 is only $10.00 more and being the newer model is probably worth that $10.00

Finally if you have a HDTV then you might want to try the Oppo Digital OPDV971H which goes for around $199.99 U.S. Dollars at a variety of websites ... one reliable site I know of is HK FLIX ... the benefit of this player is excellent PAL to NTSC but it also does upconversion to HDTV resolutions and does so very well according to what I have read. It is also capable of DivX and Xvid like the Pioneer though I don't know if it is officially DivX Certified or not.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
I still have an old Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 that does excellent PAL to NTSC conversion ... in some cases better than JVC ... but this model is no longer made. A couple months ago I bought the 300s model for $40 at BEST BUY and it had very poor PAL to NTSC conversion. I returned it ASAP. I also have a Philips DVP-642 (the one every one buys for DivX/XviD since it is cheap and easy-to-get) but it has very poor PAL to NTSC as well. So the JVC I mentioned above is probably your best bet these days for an inexpensive yet quality region free PAL to NTSC DVD player. Please note that JVC and Pioneer models need to be bought pre-modified to be region free as there is no simple easy way to do it yourself (i.e., no secret simple remote control hacks etc.)

[FulciLives]

The Samsung is $100 at Best Buy today and tomorrow. I'd get one of those if you want a sub-$100 recorder that is good.

LSI chipset, DVD-R/RW, should work fine.

I have a Pioneer but was curious what a LSI chipset DVD recorder can do ... I might have to try this for such a cheap price.

Assuming they have any left by the time I get to a BEST BUY tomorrow LOL

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

LSI chipsets are the encoding chips found in JVC, LiteOn, LG, Samsung, and a number of other machines right now. They not only record in high quality, but tend to clean the video noise, especially grain and chroma noise.

LiteOn filters tend to be strongest.

The DVD+R/+RW machines tend to use CVBR encoding settings, instead of true VBR, so the encoding is still cleaner than your average Panasonic or whatnot, but it's not as good as the JVC.

This Samsung should be true VBR use of the LSI. I looked at one yesterday, but I've dumped enough money into DVD recorders this year. I think I'm plenty set for a while.

I downloaded the manual from Samsung and it mentions the ability to do MPEG-4 aka DivX and I would assume also XviD as well. I thought that was a nice feature. I have a Philips DVP-642 but the damn thing broke on me after like, what? ... something like 4 months if that!

Anyways the BEST BUY website has the Samsung listed as OUT-OF-STOCK so while I imagine it might still be left at a store or two ... I don't have high hopes of finding one tomorrow.

I will probably just wait anyways and see what the future brings. I am happy enough with my Pioneer so I don't really need another DVD recorder now. I do however need a new DVD player since I am getting a HDTV for Christmas (well my fingers are crossed as it might not happen but it probably will).

I see an OPPO DIGITAL OPDV971H in my future

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[parallax1]

I still have an old Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 that does excellent PAL to NTSC conversion ... in some cases better than JVC ... but this model is no longer made.

I also have a Philips DVP-642 (the one every one buys for DivX/XviD since it is cheap and easy-to-get) but it has very poor PAL to NTSC as well.

Strange. I have both of these players right now and the Philips (in my opinion) does as good if not better (for me) in converting PAL to NTSC. It's good to have choices though....

[FulciLives]

I still have an old Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 that does excellent PAL to NTSC conversion ... in some cases better than JVC ... but this model is no longer made.

I also have a Philips DVP-642 (the one every one buys for DivX/XviD since it is cheap and easy-to-get) but it has very poor PAL to NTSC as well.

Strange. I have both of these players right now and the Philips (in my opinion) does as good if not better (for me) in converting PAL to NTSC. It's good to have choices though....

With my Philips I get very bad anti-aliasing effects. Like for instance if there is a shot of something with a pattern, it looks horrible. Like really really bad! I think the resize is not handled very well. I could even pick it up on the white credits on black background. Very poor resizing. The credits were not "smooth" looking. I've seen this effect with old analog PAL to NTSC conversion boxes.

The Cyberhome 300s did perfect resize with no anti-aliasing but the motion was not smooth as if frames where being dropped. It was very annoying.

My Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 has none of those problems.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[hiptune]

[quote="FulciLives"][quote="parallax1"]

I still have an old Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 that does excellent PAL to NTSC conversion ... in some cases better than JVC ... but this model is no longer made.

The Cyberhome 300s did perfect resize with no anti-aliasing but the motion was not smooth as if frames where being dropped. It was very annoying.

My Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 has none of those problems.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Thanks for letting this thread drift ever so slightly off topic re: pal/ntsc.

The CH unit I have with the killer pal to ntsc is the 300. And I have not noticed jerky motion on it. Sounds like these units are ify all the way around. I think I got lucky with the brilliant PAL conversion, got smooth motion too, just too many skips on a few too many discs.

But from your comments, I really need to check the motion issue. And if that checks out fine, I should live (for a while anyway) with the skipping discs. Just "plug and pray" when I use it which is not that much.

[FulciLives]

I still have an old Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 that does excellent PAL to NTSC conversion ... in some cases better than JVC ... but this model is no longer made.

The Cyberhome 300s did perfect resize with no anti-aliasing but the motion was not smooth as if frames where being dropped. It was very annoying.

My Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 has none of those problems.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Thanks for letting this thread drift ever so slightly off topic re: pal/ntsc.

The CH unit I have with the killer pal to ntsc is the 300. And I have not noticed jerky motion on it. Sounds like these units are ify all the way around. I think I got lucky with the brilliant PAL conversion, got smooth motion too, just too many skips on a few too many discs.

But from your comments, I really need to check the motion issue. And if that checks out fine, I should live (for a while anyway) with the skipping discs. Just "plug and pray" when I use it which is not that much.

It could be that some Cyberhome 300s units work fine and others do not. When you are making something THAT cheap for so long (that model has been out a LONG time now) I wouldn't be surprised if different parts are used from time to time that might affect performance not to mention different versions of firmware etc.

So in short maybe my 300s sucked and yours did not and that is why. Well hey even your model has some hicups even though it does PAL to NTSC better than mine it seems!

I've always been of the opinion that Cyberhome pulled the CH-DVD 500 out of their ass ... in other words it was the only really good thing they ever made LOL

Oh and they even managed to screw THAT up with the firmware revisions on it (luckily I never upgraded and have the original firmware).

Anyways I guess we should stick to the Cyberhome DVD recorder from now on I just wanted to bring that up and re-affirm that for quality PAL to NTSC the JVC I mentioned above is probably the best bet these days (if you are on a budget).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[hiptune]

The Samsung is $100 at Best Buy today and tomorrow. I'd get one of those if you want a sub-$100 recorder that is good.

LSI chipset, DVD-R/RW, should work fine.

Do any of these sub-$100 units have the hard drive feature for editing before you record the disc? That would be so handy and great on a cheap machine if it worked.

[lordsmurf]

Sub-$100 hard drive machine? Never gonna happen.