Elite BVP-4 Issue

[Leighgion]

My new eBay BVP-4 is showing a rather disappointing ignorance of a stripe of the right side of the image. Screen cap below, with the split screen dial set to median:



That stripe of non-processed image on the right edge is absolutely consistent. If I turn the split screen dial all the way over to bypass, it will blend in seamlessly. If I turn the split dial all the way off, that strip will remain unprocessed. I've pulled the other equipment from my chain and set my VCR to basic settings to make sure it's the BVP-4 at fault and sure enough.

I expect the eBay seller didn't omit this info out of malice, since that strip looks like it'd be cropped in overscan so he'd never notice if all he did was use it for TV, but for a computer editor like me, this just isn't acceptable.

Anybody got any experience with BVP-4's showing issues like this? I'd really like the thing to just work as I do like the range of controls.

[lordsmurf]

Many of the processing devices have such noise in the overscan, but that's rather large. My BVP-4 is about half that width. Since I mask all my overscans anyway for work, it's of no concern. Plus the footage out there is not worth editing, there's nothing there of consequence in the overscan. For computer viewing, I'd crop the video to a 1:1 output clip, remove the overscan entirely.

[vhelp]

Hay, sorry for the OT, but you *seem* to have the same VCR model
as mine, JVC S-VHS HR-S3910U (I can tell by screen) a great
model, hehe

Masking, fwiw ...

Is the process of layering a "black" strip across the top/bottom
and left/right sides of the video image edges. Cropping is not a
good idea, but masking is, because this is keep the aspect ratio.

-vhelp 3604

[lordsmurf]

Just FYI, the 2000-4000 series menus are all like that. My JVC HR-S3800U is identical.

[Leighgion]

Many of the processing devices have such noise in the overscan, but that's rather large. My BVP-4 is about half that width. Since I mask all my overscans anyway for work, it's of no concern. Plus the footage out there is not worth editing, there's nothing there of consequence in the overscan. For computer viewing, I'd crop the video to a 1:1 output clip, remove the overscan entirely.

I am both relieved, yet terribly annoyed that this is a known issue, especially since my Sign Video detailer covers the whole image with no problem.

The BVP-4's split dial even has the right amount of "travel" when turning to the right to suggest it should be covering the uncovered area. Guess I might be turning right around and selling this BVP-4 again as the idea of masking so large a swath of image touches off bad feelings in me and I would disagree that there's no data in the overscan worth keeping. This is one wide strip of unprocessed image pretty close to limit before it'd start showing on a TV.

Anyway though, thanks for the info, Lordsmurf. Least I know it's not some sort of arcane inner breakdown and I can resell it as a fully working unit.

Hay, sorry for the OT, but you *seem* to have the same VCR model as mine, JVC S-VHS HR-S3910U

Funny you should say that as while I have an HR-3901U, the image is from its replacement, an SR-V101US. JVC seems to stick to the same menu firmware, as Lordsmurf says.

[davideck]

...while I have an HR-3901U, the image is from its replacement, an SR-V101US.

How do you like the SR-V101US?

[lordsmurf]

Well, again, yours is larger than mine. It may be correctable.

[Leighgion]

Well, again, yours is larger than mine. It may be correctable.

If you've any idea how, I'm open to suggestions.

[Leighgion]

...while I have an HR-3901U, the image is from its replacement, an SR-V101US.

How do you like the SR-V101US?

So far, so good. It plays tapes. They look about as good as I can reasonably ask. Can't say much specific as I haven't had it setup long.

[MovieMan000]

I believe there is an adjustment screw on the inside to level out the bar. It was a known issue, and believe they gave details of how to adjust it out...Someone at ELITE could help you I am sure --- haven't used mine in several years, but pretty sure I adjusted that out upon arrival of the unit...

Richard

[lordsmurf]

Test

[Leighgion]

I believe there is an adjustment screw on the inside to level out the bar. It was a known issue, and believe they gave details of how to adjust it out...Someone at ELITE could help you I am sure --- haven't used mine in several years, but pretty sure I adjusted that out upon arrival of the unit...

Richard

WOOT!

Richard, you are a gentleman and a scholar and I thank you.

I had thought of an adjustment screw, but my first look inside didn't reveal anything promising. Thanks to your post, I looked more carefully and found the subtle little brass screw. My BVP-4 is now properly processing the entire image!

Lordsmurf, you really need to give yours the same treatment. That pesky stripe can indeed be eliminated.

[Wile_E]

Interesting. That image reminded me of problems I see with VHS camcorder footage. My dad's camcorder's "Fade in/out" effect, always left some unprocessed footage on the right side. This of course was in overscan, so no one ever saw it until now.

[lordsmurf]

Lordsmurf, you really need to give yours the same treatment. That pesky stripe can indeed be eliminated.

Yeah, I may look into it.