Vegas Rendering Project

[MI6]

When I want to render AVI edited video in VEGAS 6 to MPEG 2 file, everything is working O.K. but when I press the CUSTOM field to choose bitrate and so, I can't see what will be in MB the final MPEG 2 file. For example when I choose bitrate 8000, 720x576 for an AVI file app. 70 min the final MPEG file probably will be larger then 4.2Gb to fit on one DVD disc, so I will reduce the bitrate to get about 4.2Gb (I used this tool with TMPGEnc when I frameservering the project with Debug Frameserver, but encoding speed using this way is tooo slow). In that case TMPGEnc show the exacty valye of MPEG file in MB. In Vegas I can't see this option.Maybe I'm wrong????

[Soopafresh]

Search the "tools" section for a bit rate calculator, or use this web based one:

http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html

[thefiddler]

DVD Architect, which comes with Vegas if you buy the Vegas+DVD bundle. It will do what you want. It allows you to add videos, then move a bitrate slider until it all fits on the DVD. If you do go this route, render out to DV format or something, then let DVD Architect compress it for DVD.

[guns1inger]

If you are serious, use the bitrate calculator (above), calculate for each asset seperately, giving more bitrate to the more important assets, less to menu videos and subsidiary bits, and everything will fit and look it's best.

[GreyDeath]

I'm only using Vegas 4 still, and don't know if Vegas 6 has Mpeg-2 encoding with 2-pass rendering. If it's like mine, then you won't be able to get an exact target size for the file since it's only 1-pass.

With the bitrate calculator and inputting that setting into Vegas, you can only really get a really, general estimate.

I just made a whole bunch of episodic DVD's and Vegas' files were alot smaller and more varied than TMPGEnc's more uniform file size with the 2-pass rendering.

Having said that, Vegas still does a much better job at 2-3 pulldown.

[guns1inger]

Both 5 and 6 offer 2-pass VBR using a proprietry version of the mainconcept encoder. BUT you should always use a bitrate calculator if you have anything else on the disk - menus, extras, multiple audio tracks etc, or all you will do is fill the disk with video, then have to reencode or recompress to make everything else fit. A decent bitrate calculator will, at the very least, allow you to include multiple audio tracks and some menu overhead when calculating video bitrate. You won't get any of this from an encoder alone.

[GreyDeath]

Damn, looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue... :P

Ooh good to know that Vegas has 2-pass now. Gotta save dough for an upgrade now...