TMPGEnc & Sync

[DeathStalker77]

Ok, this seems very wierd - I'm recording to DVD+RW on a CyberHome 1200 then creating an ISO image with DVD Decrypter and burning that ISO (with DVD Decrypter) to a raw master DVD-R. From there I re-decrypt the video for mastering (to edit & add menus). I've been using TMPGEnc DVD Author (v1.5.20.62) to create the menus, but when I do so and burn the VIDEO_TS folder (with Nero Ultra v6.6.0.18 ) the sync becomes progressivly off, so the audio is coming in seconds after the video. I've double-checked the original "raw masters" and they're fine.

Anyone have any ideas on this? Or alternative programs to use?

Thanks for any help

[DeathStalker77]

Come on, *someone* must have encountered this before?

I tried using Ulead DVD Movie Factory 4, but it doesn't like the VOB files.

Tried DVDA - don't like it. Tried DVD Composer - don't like it.

TMPGEnc is the only one I've found that is SIMPLE to use and does what I want QUICKLY. But it's useless as log as it puts in this bloody delay.

Are there no other programs that are as quick & easy as TMPGEnc?

[borax]

Ok, of cause some people have encountered this before...
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=292953
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1415153#1415153
...

Maybe you could try the following:
1. Recording to DVD+RW on a CyberHome 1200 => OK.
2. Demultiplex the result directly with projectx (you may also do basic cutting thereby) to your harddisk derectly. If that doesn't work you may also use your usual procedure (creating an ISO image with DVD Decrypter and burning that ISO (with DVD Decrypter) to a raw master DVD-R) and demultiplex this result with projectx.

In each case: Use the resulting elementary streams with TDA

[DeathStalker77]

Borax:

Ok, I tried demuxing with Project X - it still came out out of sync. Here's the Project X log results -

-> working with collection 0

-> save normal log file
-> write all video data
-> write all other data
-> patch c.d.flagged infos of pictures
-> add sequence end code
-> set resolution in SDE
-> PVA: strictly specs. for audio streams
-> VOB: determine diff. Cell timelines
-> TS: ignore scrambled packets
-> TS: enhanced search for open packets
-> TS: join file segments (of Dreambox®)
-> TS: generate PMT stream dependent
-> get only enclosed PES/TS packets
-> concatenate different recordings
-> ensure 1st PES-packet start with video
-> generate PCR/SCR from PTS

-> write output files to: 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS'

-> Input File 0: 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB' (1,069,547,520 bytes)
-> Filetype is MPEG-2 PS/SS (PES Container)
-> demux
-> VobID 1 CellID 1 @ 1024 (GOP#0 / Frame#0)
-> found PES-ID 0xE0 (MPEG Video) @ 2062
-> found PES-ID 0xC0 (MPEG Audio) @ 135182
-> video basics: 720*480 @ 29.97fps @ 0.6735 (4:3) @ 4300000bps, vbvBuffer 112
-> starting export of video data @ GOP# 0
-> VobID 1 CellID 2 @ 32881664 (GOP#121 / Frame#1813)
-> VobID 1 CellID 3 @ 71042048 (GOP#242 / Frame#3628)
-> VobID 1 CellID 4 @ 106640384 (GOP#363 / Frame#5443)
-> VobID 1 CellID 5 @ 141095936 (GOP#484 / Frame#7258)
-> VobID 1 CellID 6 @ 181287936 (GOP#605 / Frame#9073)
-> VobID 1 CellID 7 @ 213238784 (GOP#726 / Frame#10888)
-> VobID 1 CellID 8 @ 247133184 (GOP#847 / Frame#12703)
-> VobID 1 CellID 9 @ 283487232 (GOP#968 / Frame#14518)
-> VobID 1 CellID 10 @ 319802368 (GOP#1089 / Frame#16333)
-> VobID 1 CellID 11 @ 354100224 (GOP#1198 / Frame#17968)
-> VobID 1 CellID 12 @ 387185664 (GOP#1319 / Frame#19783)
-> VobID 1 CellID 13 @ 418497536 (GOP#1440 / Frame#21598)
-> VobID 1 CellID 14 @ 453587968 (GOP#1561 / Frame#23413)
-> VobID 1 CellID 15 @ 488965120 (GOP#1682 / Frame#25228)
-> VobID 1 CellID 16 @ 522308608 (GOP#1803 / Frame#27043)
-> VobID 1 CellID 17 @ 556094464 (GOP#1924 / Frame#28858)
-> VobID 1 CellID 18 @ 591201280 (GOP#2045 / Frame#30673)
-> VobID 1 CellID 19 @ 631507968 (GOP#2166 / Frame#32488)
-> VobID 1 CellID 20 @ 664636416 (GOP#2287 / Frame#34303)
-> VobID 1 CellID 21 @ 699866112 (GOP#2397 / Frame#35953)
-> VobID 1 CellID 22 @ 734405632 (GOP#2518 / Frame#37768)
-> VobID 1 CellID 23 @ 766958592 (GOP#2639 / Frame#39583)
-> VobID 1 CellID 24 @ 802841600 (GOP#2760 / Frame#41398)
-> VobID 1 CellID 25 @ 839355392 (GOP#2881 / Frame#43213)
-> VobID 1 CellID 26 @ 873499648 (GOP#3002 / Frame#45028)
-> VobID 1 CellID 27 @ 910183424 (GOP#3123 / Frame#46843)
-> VobID 1 CellID 28 @ 948052992 (GOP#3244 / Frame#48658)
-> VobID 1 CellID 29 @ 983944192 (GOP#3365 / Frame#50473)
-> VobID 1 CellID 30 @ 1021654016 (GOP#3486 / Frame#52288)
-> VobID 1 CellID 31 @ 1049854976 (GOP#3596 / Frame#53938)
-> actual written vframes: 55063
switch to file: C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB (1,069,547,520 bytes) @ 1069547520
-> VobID 1 CellID 32 @ 1081869312 (GOP#3717 / Frame#55753)
-> VobID 1 CellID 33 @ 1116916736 (GOP#3838 / Frame#57568)
-> VobID 1 CellID 34 @ 1152332800 (GOP#3959 / Frame#59383)
-> VobID 1 CellID 35 @ 1191812096 (GOP#4080 / Frame#61198)
-> VobID 1 CellID 36 @ 1227852800 (GOP#4201 / Frame#63013)
-> VobID 1 CellID 37 @ 1268724736 (GOP#4322 / Frame#64828)
-> VobID 1 CellID 38 @ 1306037248 (GOP#4443 / Frame#66643)
-> VobID 1 CellID 39 @ 1335335936 (GOP#4564 / Frame#68458)
-> VobID 1 CellID 40 @ 1365804032 (GOP#4685 / Frame#70273)
-> VobID 1 CellID 41 @ 1396171776 (GOP#4795 / Frame#71923)
-> VobID 1 CellID 42 @ 1432380416 (GOP#4916 / Frame#73738)
-> VobID 1 CellID 43 @ 1469262848 (GOP#5037 / Frame#75553)
-> VobID 1 CellID 44 @ 1504418816 (GOP#5158 / Frame#77368)
-> VobID 1 CellID 45 @ 1541204992 (GOP#5279 / Frame#79183)
-> VobID 1 CellID 46 @ 1577806848 (GOP#5400 / Frame#80998)
-> VobID 1 CellID 47 @ 1610359808 (GOP#5521 / Frame#82813)
-> VobID 1 CellID 48 @ 1645061120 (GOP#5642 / Frame#84628)
-> VobID 1 CellID 49 @ 1680231424 (GOP#5763 / Frame#86443)
-> VobID 1 CellID 50 @ 1715756032 (GOP#5884 / Frame#88258)
-> VobID 1 CellID 51 @ 1747377152 (GOP#5994 / Frame#89908)
-> VobID 1 CellID 52 @ 1793434624 (GOP#6115 / Frame#91723)
-> VobID 1 CellID 53 @ 1832213504 (GOP#6236 / Frame#93538)
-> VobID 1 CellID 54 @ 1869777920 (GOP#6357 / Frame#95353)
-> VobID 1 CellID 55 @ 1902300160 (GOP#6478 / Frame#97168)
-> VobID 1 CellID 56 @ 1931914240 (GOP#6599 / Frame#98983)
-> VobID 1 CellID 57 @ 1964694528 (GOP#6720 / Frame#100798)
-> VobID 1 CellID 58 @ 1999692800 (GOP#6841 / Frame#102613)
-> VobID 1 CellID 59 @ 2033929216 (GOP#6962 / Frame#104428)
-> VobID 1 CellID 60 @ 2067084288 (GOP#7083 / Frame#106243)
-> VobID 1 CellID 61 @ 2103081984 (GOP#7192 / Frame#107878)
-> VobID 1 CellID 62 @ 2137408512 (GOP#7313 / Frame#109693)
-> actual written vframes: 109768
switch to file: C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB (44,040,192 bytes) @ 2139095040
-> VobID 1 CellID 63 @ 2174862336 (GOP#7434 / Frame#111508)
-> skip sequence_end_code following GOP# 7485
!> startPTS of GOP# 7485 is earlier than the end of last GOP.. (exp. 337189487)
!> dropping GOP# 7485 @ orig.PTS 01:02:26.516 (337186484)
-> Pics exp/cnt 13/13, inGOP PTS diff. 0ms, new Timecode 01:02:26.179
!> PTS difference of 36036 (00:00:00.400) to last exported GOP detected
!> dropping useless B-Frames @ GOP# 7486 / new Timecode 01:02:26.179
-> skip sequence_end_code following GOP# 7488
-> VobID 1 CellID 255 @ 2183115776 (GOP#7488 / Frame#112301)
-> next datas start with PTS: 00:00:00.000 / last actual PTS is 01:02:27.844
-> use new PTS-Offset: 01:02:47.044 for following data
-> found PES-ID 0xBD (private stream 1) (SubID 0xFF)-> ignored @ 2183116814

-> Video: fr/ ct/ 1p/ cg/ og/ dg -> 112301/ 1/ 7488/ 7487/ 0/ 1
-> Video length: 112301 frames @ 01:02:27.110
-> GOP summary: min. 26, max. 30 fields; contains interlaced frames
-> avg. nom. bitrate 4300028bps (min/max: 1595600/10568800)
-> set first sequenceheader bitrate to 9000000bps
---> new File: C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.m2v

--> MPEG Audio (0xC0)
-> check CRC of AC-3 / MPEG-Audio L1,2
-> delete CRC in MPEG-Audio Layer1,2
-> add frames
Audio PTS: first packet 00:00:00.374, last packet 01:02:27.844
Video PTS: start 1.GOP 00:00:00.374, end last GOP 01:02:27.951
-> adjusting audio at video-timeline
-> src_audio: MPEG-1, Layer2, 48000Hz, stereo, 256kbps, noCRC @ 00:00:00.000
!> 1 frame(s) (24ms) added @ 01:02:27.096
audio frames: wri/pre/skip/ins/add 156130/0/0/0/1 @ 01:02:27.120 done...
---> new File: 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.mp2'
--> stream omitted (0xBD)

summary of created media files:
.Video (m2v): 112301 Frames 01:02:27.110 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.m2v'
Audio 0 (mp2): 156130 Frames 01:02:27.120 0/0/0/1 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.mp2'
=> 2,133,992,832 bytes written...
-> we have 5 warnings/errors.

Any idea what the heck is going on here?

The original VOB files are all perfectly in sync when played back individually, or burned - but as soon as I try and do anything with them, they seem to go out of sync.

This is getting quite frustrating.

--- DeathStalker

[borax]

Could you check if these two streams:
.Video (m2v): 112301 Frames 01:02:27.110 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.m2v'
Audio 0 (mp2): 156130 Frames 01:02:27.120 0/0/0/1 'C:\RAW\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.mp2'

are still in sync? (use mpeg2schnitt or cuttermaran)

[DeathStalker77]

Both Media Player Classic and VLC play them out of sync. I didn't both re-muxing them.

[borax]

OK, but as the streams have at least the same length, it could be a constant delay. In this case, it could be easily corrected with mpeg2schnitt or cuttermaran...