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  1. 2 tera flops compared to microsofts 1 tera flop....Either way that's a lot of flopping around

    http://news.com.com/PlayStation+3+stats+spotlighted/2100-1043_3-5709571.html?tag=nl

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    • PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
    • 1 VMX vector unit per core
    • 512KB L2 cache
    • 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
    • 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
    • 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
    • 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
    • total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS


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    • RSX @550MHz
    • 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
    • Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
    • Multi-way programmable parallel pipelines


    Sound
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    • 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz


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    • Main RAM: 25.6GB/s
    • VRAM: 22.4GB/s
    • RSX: 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s(read)
    • SB: 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)


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    Storage
    • HDD: Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

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    • Memory Stick: standard/Duo, PRO x 1
    • SD: standard/mini x 1
    • CompactFlash: (Type I, II) x 1

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    • Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
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    • USB2.0: (wired)
    • Wi-Fi: (PSP)
    • Network: (over IP)

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    • Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
    • HDMI: HDMI out x 2
    • Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
    • Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

    Disc media
    • CD: PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM
    • CD-DA: CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW
    • SACDL: SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD
    • DualDisc: DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
    • DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video (DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW), Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
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    that's an odd number
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  4. You can't make fair teams with seven WTF? How the hell could you play a game with seven people on one TV anyways?
    This plan is so bad, it must be one of ours.
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    a moderator? lol, I don't know.

    And those are likely to change I bet. Just today they announced ram was taken down from 512MB to the 256 listed here. Either way, both system's look good with all that flopping.
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    • DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video (DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW), Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
    Does that mean it won't be able to play PS1 games? I don't have a PS1 or 2, but I would still like to see legacy support in case I ever decide to get a PS3. Even now, I've just been getting into SNES games when I never had them when I was younger.

    Perhaps the 7 controller idea is so that you can use multiple devices like a driving wheel with the pedals separate, so you don't have to buy both at once if you don't want to (and they can charge more per unit).
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    • HDMI: HDMI out x 2
    • Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
    • Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1


    ONLY HDMI? No component (YPbPr) outputs? Or does the AV MULTI OUT port include component out?
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    i believe it will play ps1 games. thats one of sony's selling points over the xbox.. i'm kind of wondering how they will pull off playstation 2 emulation.. if they use emulation, which i think they have to.. thats how they accomplished it on the ps2.
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    How the hell could you play a game with seven people on one TV anyways?
    Hey, there are two HDMI outputs; maybe you can hook up two TVs with one PS3. It probably doesn't work like that, but I think it would be cool if it did . Sony should hire me as an engineer.
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  10. If they can emulate a PS2, they shouldn't have too much problems with emulating as PS1...

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  11. It will be backwards compatible.
    My question is what will it cost me and how many years before I could afford it.
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  12. Pics! http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/s-playstation-3.html
    not shure what to think about the design tho (kinda hoping it's a fake)
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    ugh, that's ugly
    from what I've been reading, they have no plans to make changes to the controller - at least nothing as radical as what those pics show....
    why mess with perfection?
    it will be wireless, but that's about the only change that's supposed to come as far as the controllers go.
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  14. Originally Posted by Darth Paris
    You can't make fair teams with seven WTF? How the hell could you play a game with seven people on one TV anyways?
    Seven is because they use Bluetooth. Bluetooth supports a max of 7 active connections at a time.
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    Bluetoothup to 7)
    It probably means that someone saw 0-7 (which means 8 to the rest of us) and took it as 7.

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  16. Originally Posted by tlegion
    Bluetoothup to 7)
    It probably means that someone saw 0-7 (which means 8 to the rest of us) and took it as 7.

    No, it is 7. BT supports a max of 7 active devices.
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    I stand corrected.

    (Does the console make it 8?)
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    Originally Posted by Donny661
    • DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video (DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW), Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
    Does that mean it won't be able to play PS1 games? I don't have a PS1 or 2, but I would still like to see legacy support in case I ever decide to get a PS3. Even now, I've just been getting into SNES games when I never had them when I was younger.

    Perhaps the 7 controller idea is so that you can use multiple devices like a driving wheel with the pedals separate, so you don't have to buy both at once if you don't want to (and they can charge more per unit).
    re:PS1...
    Look at CD specs (not DVD). It's in there. Perhaps you forget that the original PS1 is built on CD media.

    re:2Channels of HDMI...
    I'm strongly hoping, and it looks like it might be possible with this system, that you could do Stereoscopic 3D games. Maybe even projected!

    re: Bluetooth...
    Yes, if IIRC, similar to old SCSI, it supports 8 devices with 1 of them being the base unit, so 7 left.

    So far, all 3 game makers seem to be pulling out the stops with the technology (MS, Sony, Nintendo). Now, if they can just make it affordable...

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    Originally Posted by Xylob the Destroyer
    ugh, that's ugly
    from what I've been reading, they have no plans to make changes to the controller - at least nothing as radical as what those pics show....
    why mess with perfection?.
    My neighbor kid has a PS2 and every tiem I play it my fingers are killing me! Grab the smaller Xbox style and oh man, much, much better. I don't know how anyone can use those PS2 controllers. Just don't use the big Xbox controller, too bulky.

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  20. Have they set a suggested price yet?
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  21. Originally Posted by D.A.R.J.R.
    Have they set a suggested price yet?
    Not yet, but it must be a Gazillion dollars...
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    what does flopping mean, thats what i dont understand
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    like a fish out of water?
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia
    re:2Channels of HDMI...
    I'm strongly hoping, and it looks like it might be possible with this system, that you could do Stereoscopic 3D games. Maybe even projected!
    that's cute!
    keep hoping, it's good to be optimistic

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    My neighbor kid has a PS2 and every tiem I play it my fingers are killing me! Grab the smaller Xbox style and oh man, much, much better. I don't know how anyone can use those PS2 controllers. Just don't use the big Xbox controller, too bulky.
    different strokes for different folks. I find both of the X-BOX controllers to be virtual torture devices - I call them the "carpal tunnel" machines.
    the Dual-Shock2, however, feels like a dream in my hands. My only complaint is that it's a bit too small -- some of us come in adult sizes. I'm 6'4" and have BIG hands....
    My buddy is from Japan (he's 6'3") and brought his Japanese PS1 back with him several years ago, the Japanese "standard" PS controller is even smaller than the U.S. "standard" PS controller. I don't know how he could have suffered with that controller all those years...
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    Originally Posted by Xylob the Destroyer
    Originally Posted by Cornucopia
    re:2Channels of HDMI...
    I'm strongly hoping, and it looks like it might be possible with this system, that you could do Stereoscopic 3D games. Maybe even projected!
    that's cute!
    keep hoping, it's good to be optimistic
    That's certainly what the rumor on the street is for Nintendo Revolution, so I wouldn't put it past Sony to incorporate that also and get some of their anticipated users, especially as the Cell should be able to easily handle 2 HD streams (acc'd to advertised specs).

    Yes I'm optimistic.

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    you've obviously got a bigger budget than I do....
    what kind of display hardware do you plan on connecting to?
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    Originally Posted by hrlslcbr
    AV Output
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    • Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
    • Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1


    ONLY HDMI? No component (YPbPr) outputs? Or does the AV MULTI OUT port include component out?
    Not sure if it has Components but I do know that you can hook it up to two TVs. But I know I can't afford two HD televisions. I suggest you guys follow this link and check out the video for Killzone 2. I seriously sharted my jeans when I saw this.... http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html
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    looks like that will indeed be the new controller....
    http://e3.playstation.com/hardware/ps3/index.aspx


    my question is, if it's backward compatible with PS1 & PS2, how do you use the save function for these games?
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    It says nothing about slots for the "old" memory cards and I can't even see slots for the "new" cards...


    perhaps you can simply save PS1 & PS2 games to the new memory media? or the hard drive?
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    Originally Posted by Donny661
    • DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video (DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW), Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
    Does that mean it won't be able to play PS1 games? I don't have a PS1 or 2, but I would still like to see legacy support in case I ever decide to get a PS3. Even now, I've just been getting into SNES games when I never had them when I was younger.

    Perhaps the 7 controller idea is so that you can use multiple devices like a driving wheel with the pedals separate, so you don't have to buy both at once if you don't want to (and they can charge more per unit).

    yes it will play ps1 games. they aren't listed there because those are DVD formats and psone never had any dvd games.
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