Purchased ILO DVDRHD04 - NO probs after new firmware

[alleygator]

First, the only thing I have found so far I don't like is that it will not pass A/V through unless turned on. I don't like putting wear on it for no reason. Will add some more switching to bypass it. I applied the "1193A" and "1193B" updates. I am off with the flu, but while "couching" have put it through all I can think of. No jitters, no green tint, no audio synch problems. Put 2 old home videos on HDD, added chapter marks, named it and burned them to DVD's, finalized, and they work in all 4 players here. I waited until everything sounded better, via this forum and I'm glad I did - thanks to Guitarman and others. If I ever find a prob, I'll post it, but so far I give it a big thumbs up. (Haven't tried split/merge yet).

[Guitarman]

You'll be happy to know that the split and merge works great since 1193 came out. Prior to 1193, there was a good chance that the split function would freeze and you would loose the recording you were splitting.

I have not had one split freeze since upgrading to 1193 and beyond, and I use it quite a bit!!

I'm glad you're happy with the ILO. I have both an HD04 and a Pioneer DVR-420 and use both regularly. I do all my home video and VHS backup on the ILO.

[LCSHG]

alleygator

I also have a ilo DVDHD04 and its great. I also did not seem to have any problems with the green tint issue. Thon I copied a VHS tape that was green tint throughout. The recording was OK, Playback on any other player was OK but playback on the ilo was a bummer. Guitarman advice is the best. His site has a new firmware update 1194. IT WORKS, the green tint is gone.

[kenmasters83]

you might wanna take a peak at my user guide about removing commercials its really just splitting the video and remerging it though its very fast and easy to do!!

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263609

[alleygator]

you might wanna take a peak at my user guide about removing commercials its really just splitting the video and remerging it though its very fast and easy to do!!

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263609

I did, and saved it for reference - sounds very helpful - thanks. I have noticed one minor glitch - I think. After recording a session to HDD, then playing it and go to EDIT mode to insert chapter marks - I notice the counter stays at zero - I have cycled the power, which fixed it. Today, I just opened and closed the dvd tray and the glitch did not appear. Needs a little more research, but it's certainly no big deal. I still don't understand not passing A/V sigs when turned off. We have a lot of equipment here, and none of it old or new does this. Quite annoying. Maybe they figure if you have to leave it on, it'll wear out and you'll buy another one quicker

[qpskfec]

Guitarman, does the pioneer 420 pass thru A/V when in standby mode? I have a Philips recorder now that does pass thru when in standby mode.

[kenmasters83]

alleygator i PM'd you about the problem with the counter staying at zero..

i left out one thing in the guide i made you must press play in the edit menu to start the editing process.that has now been fixed kudos to alleygator.

thanks alleygator for pointing that out i made that topic within 5 minutes of learning how to do it myself.

[Guitarman]

Guitarman, does the pioneer 420 pass thru A/V when in standby mode? I have a Philips recorder now that does pass thru when in standby mode.

You know, I have never tried it hooked up through the coax. I have the coax in from the cable but am using the component and fiber out so I have no idea if the passthrough stays active. It doesn't out the component video jacks but I don't think any of them do. Hmmmmm......something for me to try!!!<insert evil laugh>

[qpskfec]

Actually, I was referring to composite pass thru. I have a Philips recorder now, I have a vcr going into one of the composite inputs of the Philips. It's nice to be able to watch a vhs tape without having to turn the power on the Philips.

[LCSHG]

I've had a lot of equipment in series to the display. Very old, old, and new, they all had to be on for output. Some would work in standby but they were on. If this is not desired. You can use a A/V switch box to switch in or out any piece of equipment.

[alleygator]

alleygator

I also have a ilo DVDHD04 and its great. I also did not seem to have any problems with the green tint issue. Thon I copied a VHS tape that was green tint throughout. The recording was OK, Playback on any other player was OK but playback on the ilo was a bummer. Guitarman advice is the best. His site has a new firmware update 1194. IT WORKS, the green tint is gone.

Well I spoke too soon. Have about 8 things on HDD ok. Wife wanted me to record "Jane Eyre". It's not just a tint. It's like looking through green jello. Completely unwatchable. Question - can I safely apply 1194 without loosing the stuff on the HD. Final 4's are on there ya know
And whether I write them depends on if Illinois wins.

[LCSHG]

alleygator

I thought I was in the clear also. Green tint my foot I said. I found the 1194 upgrade on Guitarman's web site [its up a few comments on this form]. Its not on the ilo site. It does what it says. I did not see any loss of programs on the HDD. I don't know if you are using the hack. If you are you will lose it. Don't hack an already hacked upgrade. I reinstalled the [NO HACK 1193a] upgrade than installed the hack ver. of 1194 and the hack is back. Check with Guitarman, Do what he says. As I said 1194 works. The green tint is gone and the CD playback is back. I think the tint is in the ilo playback and disk you made is ok.???? Can you let me know?

[alleygator]

alleygator

...The green tint is gone and the CD playback is back. I think the tint is in the ilo playback and disk you made is ok.???? Can you let me know?

As it turns out, this particular movie did have some weird green overtones at the beginning and when I first checked the results I thought the fix didn't help - once I looked farther, the 1194 fix did indeed work. I burned to disk and it is also fixed. Thanks to whoever came up with the patch. Unfortunately, I had not burned to disk before the patch, so I can't attest to whether it would have looked ok when burned or not.

[Guitarman]

Take care when doing your updates. It is always best to back up the HDD contents to DVD+RW's before doing any updates. In the past, the contents may still be there but any editing you might want to do may fail. Copy to DVD+RW's, update and then copy the DVD+RW's back to the HDD. This will insure the recordings will stay intact.

Also, 1194 (hacked or unhacked) is not patched. It came from ILO, just not on their site yet. It was e-mailed by ILO to another user, who then forwarded it to me so it could get posted.

[LCSHG]

Guitarman

Good advice on the backup, when updating. I spoke to an ilo tech about the 1194 update not being on their web site. They seemed to know that it was on another site. They said that the 1194 was a beta version sent to a customer and most likely given to another party. [What you said]. They seemed interested in user opinion of 1194. They indicated that the reason it is not posted on their site is that was still being worked on [to possibly improve it?] In the mean time 1194 works.and do you think it makes the ilo [Better???] than the pioneer. [Little Dig] Hey! the pioneer is ok

[leo_canada]

I have a question to ILO owners (models with or without HDD) who
experienced the Green Tint problem with previous
firmware, and who noticed that the GT problem was indeed fixed
with the new firmware:

What happened to the DVDs that you burned with
the older firmware (i.e., before the GT firmware fix)?
Do they still show the GT problem after the firmware update?

(So if you recorded some VHS tapes with the older firmware,
and these DVD recordings showed the GT problem,
do you have to recapture/rerecord them into DVDs again,
or do they play fine after the firmware fix?)

I guess this boils down to asking whether the
GT problem that was recently fixed was in the encoding
or only in the playback function of the ILOs...

Thanks for the info!

[Guitarman]

Most have said that the GT did not transfer to the DVD and it was just during playback.


LCSHG,
In all honesty, the Pioneer smokes the HD04 but, for me, the HD04 has it's specific uses. I use it to do all my home video backup since the Pioneer will sometimes loose the picture if the signal is weak coming from the tape. Plus it has the DV connector.

The ILO has definatly become a much better recorder than when it started out.

[onebigswede]

The green tint was in fact fixed by the 1194 firmware - and all of the dvds that i burned that showed the green tint previously - now do NOT show the GT. So I believe the GT problem was only on playback on the Ilo, not on the actual recorded shows.

I for one have been VERY happy with my ILO - it has done everything I need it to - and now that the green tint is gone, i have no real problems with it to speak of.

[alleygator]

Well, now I found a new problem - with the merge function dropping part of the first session. I'm recording several episodes of a program (just under 30 minutes each) to HDD, then will put 8 on each 4 hour dvd. I recorded 2 shows. Then recorded the next 6 as a second session. I selected the first one, merged the second one. The last 10 minutes (just under, actually) of the first session is cut off. Is this an existing issue?

[LCSHG]

Guitarman wrote

LCSHG,
In all honesty, the Pioneer smokes the HD04 but, for me, the HD04 has it's specific uses. I use it to do all my home video backup since the Pioneer will sometimes loose the picture if the signal is weak coming from the tape. Plus it has the DV connector.

The ILO has definatly become a much better recorder than when it started out.


Guitarman

Agreed!! I use the ilo in the same mannor and have never regreted any of your advice. The ilo support would be hard to beat. As I said in another form, A user to often, [because of price] expects more from a unit than it was designed to do.[/list][/code]

[kenmasters83]

alleygator i am able to put 12 eps of a 30 minute show on the ilo after editing out the commercials the show only last around 20 minutes times 12 equals 240 minutes=four hours..

i havent had the problem you speak of but i have noticed the ilo is a second behind the editing process i wish it was dead on accurate but it isnt..

the ild dvdrhd04 is my first dvd recorder and i can not see myself using a dvd-recorder that doesnt have a HDD it speeds of up everything especially if your editing. i tried it with a dvd-rw and it was slow dog slow..

[alleygator]

alleygator i am able to put 12 eps of a 30 minute show on the ilo after editing out the commercials the show only last around 20 minutes times 12 equals 240 minutes=four hours..

Well, I'm going to have to test it again - haven't had time yet. I fixed it by splitting the 2 sessions, rerecording the first 2 programs, and writing 2 seperate sessions to the dvd. This is fine for this scenario, archiving a bunch of half-hour shows. But after my first merge try, I won't use it on anything important until I test. The easiest way to test will be to mess with your commercial-editing procedure - thanks again, BTW. I'm on the hacked version of 1194, which BTW I am forever grateful to GM or whoever does this. I'm not interested in any illegal copying, as I rarely watch TV and most movies I like were made before 1960; I can get those free off DISH if I just watch and wait . I know you find this hard to believe but I'm a network admin and I don't steal software either. However, more than once I have had to re-purchase a DVD 'cause one of the kids destroyed it. I only got the ILO originally for home-movie transfer but this added feature is great.

[alleygator]

Well, now I found a new problem - with the merge function dropping part of the first session. I'm recording several episodes of a program (just under 30 minutes each) to HDD, then will put 8 on each 4 hour dvd. I recorded 2 shows. Then recorded the next 6 as a second session. I selected the first one, merged the second one. The last 10 minutes (just under, actually) of the first session is cut off. Is this an existing issue?

OK, I must deeply apologize for posting this ridiculous drivel. I was off sick for almost 3 weeks and taking some pretty awesome pain medication. In the last couple of days, I have done about a dozen merge/split exercises, and they all work perfectly. I must have screwed it up myself somehow. This DVDRHD04 is probably one of the best purchases I have made in years, thanks to ILO for theupdates, Guitarman for the 1194 hack and kenmasters83 for the commercial editing hints.