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  1. Member mbaker_jr's Avatar
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    Check out this frightening article by Dan Ramer at dvdfile.com about the copy protection that the studios are planning to build into HD-DVD.

    http://www.dvdfile.com/news/viewpoints/editors_desk/2005/04_01.html

    I apologize if this is an april fool's joke and I am gullible but it looks to be the real thing.

    I would post the full text here but I didn't know the policy on that and I want the original site and author to get all credit and any benefits from increased hits.
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    If it's a hoax, I'm not worried.

    If it's true, I'm not too worried, 'cuz it'll turn out to be the straw that broke the camel's back AFA the MPAA is concerned. OOOPS! Dismal sales!
    They'll have to go back to square one and do some hard work to get back consumers' trust.

    They completely forgot the old adage, "The customer is always right!" If they treat us like dirt, don't buy. They'll have to change or die. StdDef DVD is fine with me for right now.

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    If its official, it'll be cracked sooner or later.

    And in purchasing the disc, what if people want to pay by cash? The MPAA cant keep records that way.
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    sounds like a load of crap to me
    it had some credibility until the "Kiss your privacy goodbye" section
    broadband isn't widespread enough yet and a lot of people (me for example, but also several of my friends) don't even HAVE a telephone land-line anymore. I only use a cell phone.
    the electronics industry will definitely want as much of a market penetration with their new tech as they have with DVD -- and DVD is fuckin' EVERYWHERE now
    they're not going to limit their market the way those security 'requirements' would require
    also, good luck getting every merchant in the world to pony up the $$$$ to install their fancy ass security/tracking systems
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    waheed, as far as the cash transactions go, that's what the video camera deal is for -- to take a picture of the customer who pays cash
    as if....
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  6. so if this is true,then really gone are the days where you do own it.this just seems like a rental thing to me.
    sometimes in the future,updated encryption could mean the lockout of the film you purchased.
    its gotta be a lot of shit though,another april fool gag.
    i definatly wouldnt buy anything that was protected in this almost orwellian way.
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  7. I believe this story is true,I read similar articles last month.In fact all new HDTV's in the US must be HDCP compliant(copy protected) when using DVI or HDMI connectors.
    This scheme will ultimatly fail...remember Divx DVD's?
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  8. No thanks, they won't get any of my money, period. I foresee a lot of consumer resistance to this scheme.
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  9. Privacy rights groups will have a field day with this if it to be true which I dont. Who knows nowadays. I dont need Hi-Def anyway. Does it mean we can sue the MPAA for invasion of privacy?LOL
    It will probably happen
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  10. When these serialized high definition discs are sold, retailers and web vendors will be required to provide purchase information based on credit card transactions to the MPAA for its database on a weekly basis. Brick and mortar shops will also be required to install networked cameras directed toward cash register positions to capture images of purchasers during sales of high definition discs.


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  11. I don't know about the copy protection part but the privacy section is bull which leads me to believe that the whole thing is bull.
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  12. I'll just wear a diguise. Maybe a handlebar mustache with some horned-rims & a top hat.
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  13. It's got to be a joke. Taking a picture of someone at the register as he or she makes a purchase is silly. If this were true and the MPAA were serious about tracking down people who upload movies on the internet, the store clerk would ask to see your driver's license as if you were making a credit card purchase, and then record the information. Read the last line of the article;

    And if the paranoia I've described in this article were true, I'd have to find a new hobby.
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    Is it true ... well ... at the end of the article he has ....

    Final thoughts

    I'm fearful of the draconian anti-piracy measures the film industry may jam down the throats of law-abiding consumers, home theater enthusiasts, and film buffs as the new high definition payers come to market. I, for one, can't afford to replace my front projector without accepting a serious step down in image quality. And if the paranoia I've described in this article were true, I'd have to find a new hobby.

    So ... hmmm ... I kinda think it is not true
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  15. Fi they want to do some kind of copy protection to slow things down they would make a played like a game concole where you would need a modchip to play back ups.
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    Originally Posted by Xylob the Destroyer
    waheed, as far as the cash transactions go, that's what the video camera deal is for -- to take a picture of the customer who pays cash
    as if....
    I still dont think its possible to keep track of all the records. Reason being:

    - People can buy discs for their family/friends as Gifts, eg like a Christmas present or Birthday present.

    - Poeple do sell on their Used movies, on ebay, newspapers, or privately.

    - Not all retail stores have video cameras.

    - If someone else buys the movie for you.

    the list goes on.
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    as far as the cash transactions go, that's what the video camera deal is for -- to take a picture of the customer who pays cash
    as if....
    Sorry folks, you missed it.

    Any video camera in the vicinity of a POS (point of sale) - in other words, a cash register - is there for the prime purpose of recording movements around the cash. So, if either the employee or customer decides to try and steal the cash, then security has a recording which likely identifies the thief.

    It isn't used for identifying every single cash transaction.
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  18. When these serialized high definition discs are sold, retailers and web vendors will be required to provide purchase information based on credit card transactions to the MPAA for its database on a weekly basis. Brick and mortar shops will also be required to install networked cameras directed toward cash register positions to capture images of purchasers during sales of high definition discs.
    What about people who are copying blockbuster HD rentals. Are you going to arrest everybody who has rented that specific disc???
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    I cannot help but notice this article (so-called) is dated April 1st.

    I wonder how long it will take before the joke is recognized.
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