Video, no audio with TMPGEnc burned DVD with DVD player

[louhall]

I get only video without audio when I play the
DVD created with TMPGEnc on my DVD
player that is away from my computer.

Can you suggest what I have done wrong?

With a .mpg file on my hard disk, I used TMPGenc to
edit and burn a DVD+R. This created two folders on
my hard disk, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS before I
used the burn application within this software. This
then created the same two folders on the DVD.

I find the AUDIO_TS folder is empty and the VIDEO_TS
has the seven files, VIDEO_TS.BUP, VIDEO_TS.VOB,
VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_01._1.VOB, VIDEO_TS.IFO,
VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0.VOB, both in the work folder
[DVDTEST] and the burned DVD disk.

I get audio with the video using the PC in the three locations,
the hard drive mpg file, the hard drive work area folder,
DVDTEST[my assignment] and the DVD disk that has the
same files as the DVDTEST work area folder, but the
AUDIO_TS folder is empty in the DVDTEST work area
and the DVD disk.

[Krispy Kritter]

The AUDIO_TS folder being empty is not a surprise. The audio is included in the video files. Your audio may not be in DVD spec, so the standalone player cannot reproduce it.

[louhall]

Krispy Kritter,

Thanks for the reply. Further question. I use the same DVD player where I have copied to back up DVDs using DVDX copy, but of course the source here were sophisticated DVDs. Sound comes through good on those.

The original source of this file was a tape from a non-digital Sony camcorder that I loaded to a VCR with audio overlaid then to my hard disk on an old Windows 95 PC with mirovideox, then transferring the file to my XP computer. The file extension on my XP is ".mpg".

Would some other type of software be avaiable to reformat this file so that I might be able to produce sound with it?

I am trying to download a Dolby Sound Plug-in AC-3, but I am beginning to suspect that this will not be a solution. For that matter, I don't even know what the AC-3 is supposed to do

[Epicurus8a]

The AUDIO_TS folder is intended for audio DVDs and will (almost) always be empty on a video DVD.

Does the DVD playback properly on your computer? If so, I'm guessing your standalone DVD player doesn't support MPEG audio. So, you'll have to convert the audio to LPCM or AC3 with different authoring software.

Here's how to check your audio format:
1. Start TMPGEnc DVD Author.
2. Click "Add file"
3. Locate and open your MPEG file.
You should then see a screen like the one below. If it says "MPEG-1 Audio Layer 2," then my guess is probably correct. If it says LPCM or AC3, then I my guess is completely wrong.


Good Luck!

[louhall]

Epicurius,

Thanks,
Video Settings
On Video Input:
C\WINFAST WORK AREA\StLouis(CVBS).mpg
Video Settings:
MPEG-2,720X480 29.97 fps (4:3) NTSC 6000kbps


Audio Settings
On Audio Input:
C\WINFAST Work Arera\StLouis(CVBS).mpg
Audio Input Format:
MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2, 4800Hz stereo, 224kbps
with the radio button dotted for Stero 2 channel
Reencode the audio is not checked

I've got to step away for an hour [now 4:41 CST] then I can return
to this infor as it seems interesting to interpret and try things with.

On my DVD player, I have played DVD's that I created from copying movie DVD's for back up. The DVD book has a section on playing MP3/WMA files. The DVD is a two year old Toshiba DVD Sd-K620KU purchased at Sam's for about seventy dollars. Other data sampling freq. 44.1kHz only, bit rate, WMA:48kbps-192 kbps (CBR),MP3: 32 kbps-320 kbps (CBR)
A file name should be in alphabet and numerals only, and
must incorporate "MP3" or "WMA" extension WMA codec version V& or V8 (stero aound only)

[Epicurus8a]

Here's a link to you player, maybe you can contact some of the people making posts and see if they have any ideas.

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDnameid=2503&Search=Search&#comments

Try your self-authored DVD on a friend or neighbors machine and see if it works. Also, there may be a menu set-up adjustment of some sort on your machine (audio output).

Your backups (which I do not endorse) probably have AC3 or LPCM audio.

[HAMMER30]

Hi I have this same exact problem when authoring a DVD when using the same program as you have. I have a JVC surround sound DVD player that the audio will not work on it but audio plays fine with dvd backups. The problem is as stated above is the dvd player does not support MPEG audio, the only way to fix the problem is to convert the audio to AC3 for it to play properly. I have another stand alone player a Mintek that the audio plays fine on. One way around the problem is to just purchase a cheap dvd player all the cheap brands play thses discs audio fine Apex, Shinsonic, Mintek, Cyberhome, Symphonic these are all around $40.00 or less. I use my JVC to watch commercial movies and backups and my cheap Mintek player to watch the authored disks. Hope this helps

[louhall]

I have a lot to learn about formats in audio and video . . . .I feel my player is good only for MP3 and WMV, or something there abouts. I would like to be able to create DVD's from old tapes, etc. that I can pass to family members for their use. . . . . but ????what format should that be in. . . .that is what I am shooting for.

Received this prompt reply from support at TMPEGnc, which I am sure makes a lot of sense to most others . . . . but I am trying to digest it.

"It is possible the stand-alone player does not support the recorded audio
data format. The MPEG-1 Layer 2 (MP2) is an option in the NTSC format
DVD-Video standard and the player may not be able to play it.
In such a case, convert the original MPEG file into linear PCM before or set this format in the "Track settings"window of TMPGEnc DVD Author."( from our website FAQ)

In regards to the Audio folder being blank, it normally is blank. Every now and then there maybe DVD Audio that needs to go in there for commercial DVD standards but, you do not have to worry about
no audio files being present in the Audio_TS folder.

Also, if you do install the AC-3 Plug-in, it may solve your problem, if you
encode using the dolby digitalformat. Newer players are more prone to accept dolby digital...unless the player in question is old.
But, my suggestion to you would be to try to create the source file with the proper standards, especially for audio (48kHz 16bit).

[Epicurus8a]

I would like to be able to create DVD's from old tapes, etc. that I can pass to family members for their use

Unless you intend to do sophisticated editing, I stongly suggest purchasing a name brand DVD Recorder such as Pioneer or JVC for converting your tapes. It simplifies the whole process tremendiously. As a bonus, you can use your computer while your DVD recorder is working.

Just check the DVD Recorder forum for more info. You won't regret it.

[louhall]

Here is my problem more simply stated. Thank you for getting this far down in my narratives.



What software can I use to burn MPG files that I have on my hard disk [just "MPG" without an extension that I get from inputing camcorder tapes onto my hard drive via my Winfast TV2000XP video card]?

What is the most common format and how do I create it where I can make a dvd that will play on most DVDs?

I have on my hard disk a file with the extension, ".mpg" [no number suffix] which I edit using the software "TMPGEnc" into a work folder that I set up, "DVDTEST". . . then I take the option with "TMPGEnc" to burn the files from the "DVDTEST" folder[VIDEO-TS.IFO, etc.] to a dvd which with which I can play the audio and video with various software on my PC, but on my DVD player the audio will not play . . . .no doubt it is because that player will only play WMA and MPG3.

The audio is buried into the VIDEO_TS folder in some manner that I know nothing about. I do not want to buy a player that will play anything as I would like to give family members our old home VCR movies in the form of DVD that they can play on whatever late model DVD player they might have.

[Epicurus8a]

2 channel AC3 audio would be the most compatible. LPCM audio would work too, but because it is uncompressed audio it will take up more disc space. (Most people won't notice any difference in sound quality.)

TMPGEnc offers an AC3 audio plug-in for their software:
http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tsp_ac3.html

Here is a thread where people talk about their authoring software:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=191462&start=90

Here is a link to authoring software, be sure to check for AC3 audio capability:
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=2#2

TMPGEnc & TMPGEnc DVD Author is by far the most practical software. I have not tried the AC3 plug-in, but I understand it needs to "phone home" via the internet once per month for verification. If this bothers you, consider another piece of software from the list. A lot of people swear by DVDlab. Personally I use Ulead DVD WorkShop 2, but it's a bit expensive.

Many of us who used capture cards in the past have now switched to DVD Recorders due to the quality and ease. I honesty think this is your best bet.

[monzie]

Louhall

Welcome to the forums.

It looks like your problem is that your (standalone) DVD player will not play mpa/mp2 audio (a stupid R1 quirk?)....and FYI nearly all comercial DVD's use either AC3 (whatever number of channels) or DTS (some MAY use other audio formats but in general its nearly always AC3 or DTS)...hence audio playback on commercial back ups.

So what you need to do is convert your audio to AC3...(its pretty easy and FREE).

1) Open up TMPG and DEMUX your created .mpg file for your DVD.

2) To do this CLOSE the WIZARD and from the FILE tab select MPEG TOOLS.

3) Select the SIMPLE DEMULTIPLEX tab and point the INPUT at your .mpg file.

4) Save the OUTPUTS to somewhere (like the desktop)

5) RUN

6) Download and install FFMPEGGUI

7) Point FFMPEGGUI at the AUDIO file you have created and ensure AC3 is the FORMAT selected...use 192 bitrate (or 224).

8) BROWSE to somewhere to save your (about to be converted) AC3 file, and give it a logical name. Then press CONVERT.

9) After conversion OPEN up TDA (TMPG DVD AUTHOR) and point it at
a) the demuxed video stream (either .m1v or .m2v) for the VIDEO and
b) to the newly created AC3 file.

10) You WILL NOT hear the AC3 audio when playing thru TDA BUT DO NOT WORRY! Create your chapters and menu's and let TDA run.

11) Open up the FIRST .ifo from the newly created DVD folder with a software DVD player and check you have audio.

12) Burn to DVD with either TDA's burner or Nero etc.

13) Give me the point at Ex Ex where you first posted.........

[louhall]

I had to be away all day. I am anxiously awaiting tomorrow to go over your posts.

Much Thanks.

[louhall]

Still haven't been able to get back to these great suggestions.

#13 above
13) Give me the point at Ex Ex where you first posted.........

I can't figure this out.

[louhall]

Monzie,
I went to TMPG, but I could find no hint of what
"DEMUX" is about. Please suggest.

[louhall]

I found with google that it means separating the audio from the video, so my problem is, how do I do that with TMPG?

[monzie]

Try READING that little guide I wrote for you lines 2), 3) and 4)....

As for the points over at Ex Ex (Experts Exchange.. where you also posted this EXACT question) it was a test of your mental agility (obviously lacking) as I did NOT reply to you at Ex Ex so (obviously) you CANNOT give me the points there....

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/MultiMedia_Applications/Q_21326188.html

I think your BASIC problem is that you are calling TDA (TMPG DVD Author) > "TMPG", when everyone else in the world calls TMPGenc (or TMPGenc+) > "TMPG"

Get TMPGenc (free trial version >bottom link... or ...the VCD/mpeg1 only version 'free'>top link).

http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html

or

http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/index.html

[louhall]

Epicurus8a,

Many thanks for your detailed posts. I have printed them out for study.
"Study", I have some software, some devices, etc. that I must think about as I go through your posts and take into consderation the comment from Hammer30. At some point I may even be able to understand the suggestions of Monzie.

I'll post the results, but again thanks.