The Grudge

[mijman]

FWIW, This movie behaves exactly like The Forgotten (as many had predicted).

Lots of header warnings, blah blah, long black space at the beginning blah blah.

To save headaches, here's my workaround.

Rip with DVD Decripter
process with VobBlanker (to get rid of the black space)
DVDShrink to make it fit.


For the benefit of those who (exasperated sigh) only want the movie, reauthor in DVDshrink and cut the section out first, and you can skip the VoBBlanker step.

enjoy.

[Gurm]

I'm failing to understand the deal with this "long black space" issue... I haven't seen this on any of the new ArcCos-protected discs...

[sminker]

I had no problem backing this up.

I used CloneDVD 2.7.1.1 and Anydvd 4.5.6.2

Just watched the backup and it was perfect.

[BJ_M]

the canada version (just like the The Forgotten and ER2) are perfectly normal disks ....

least the ones i have

[Gurm]

Yeah. I use DVD Decrypter, and then Shrink. I don't remove any spurious black space. RE: Apocalypse and Little Black Book have been fine.

[Scottie]

Can you give me tips on using VobBlanker I have The Forgotten and it has this blank space at the beginig, Thanks !

[Scottie]

Oops didn't see that about Shrink, I use shrink for just the movie I aborted VobBlanker.

[chas0039]

These guys have been working on this for a while:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=124366&highlight=grudge

[BJ_M]

I had no problem backing this up.

I used CloneDVD 2.7.1.1 and Anydvd 4.5.6.2

Just watched the backup and it was perfect.

you must of had a copy without the mastering error on it .. SetupCloneDVD2731.exe has the fix

[ybeard]

I simply used AnyDVD 4.5.6.2 and DVD Shrink and ripped the main movie only. Worked fine.

[Sabro]

I simply used AnyDVD 4.5.6.2 and DVD Shrink and ripped the main movie only. Worked fine.

I 2nd that!

Sabro

[cbsmooney]

Used dycriptor and tried to burn with Clone DVD, got an error message. Then used Easy Creator 7 and burned fine.

[mijman]

What VobBlanker is designed to do is to is replace video files with a blank vob and to rewrite the routing information to compensate for it.

These new bad-sector discs hae their routing info already telling the player to skip the bad sectors.

By processing the entire movie thru VobBlanker, you are recreating all the video files according to that routing info, and making a new version without all the skipping around and bad sector no-funness.

Doing this with a "normal" movie accomplishes nothing, really, but since The Grudge and The Forgotten tell the player to skip that 15 minutes of black space anyway, the recreated movie doesn't even contain it.

[Bullworth]

mijman, when you talk about processing the movie with VobBlanker do you mean to just run it through unmodified or blank out the black screen parts? I'm backing up RE2, The Grudge and The Forgotten. I know I've got my work cut out for me. Unlike some other people who said that the DVD players will display a blank screen for a long time, or have to hit pause and then play mine plays the originals fine.
I ripped The Grudge yesterday with DVD Decryter; did it in two modes. The first was only with D and it just reported suspect areas and inserted dummy data. The second was with D and running AnyDVD in the background. With this is received a bunch of Pack Header errors.

[SoCo4Fun]

I have tried following the directions you guys have given in this thread but DVDShrink hangs right when I start backing up and DVD Decrypter hangs on VTS_07_1.VOB. If you can't tell I'm pretty new to this and don't know where to go from here......

[HatchetMan]

I have tried following the directions you guys have given in this thread but DVDShrink hangs right when I start backing up and DVD Decrypter hangs on VTS_07_1.VOB. If you can't tell I'm pretty new to this and don't know where to go from here......

do you have the latest version of AnyDVD installed? beta is free for download (for 21 days)

[Noahtuck]

I had the same problem on the forgotten, just a long blank (black) section of video, then the opening just before the movie started came on.....

[bdf24]

I have tried following the directions you guys have given in this thread but DVDShrink hangs right when I start backing up and DVD Decrypter hangs on VTS_07_1.VOB. If you can't tell I'm pretty new to this and don't know where to go from here......

Mine does the same exact thing. I'm trying to rip in ISO mode now with DVDDecrypter. Its at 35 % now, so I'll wait and see what happens.

Well it's done and it worked fine. Ran the ISO image thru shrink it that worked fine as well.

[handyguy]

I use shrink but convert any extra stuff to still pics. There is sometimes a folder of unreferenced material that should be converted to still pics.

[bdf24]

I use shrink but convert any extra stuff to still pics. There is sometimes a folder of unreferenced material that should be converted to still pics.

Yes but Shrink would'nt even get past 25 percent when anaylizing the disk.

[SoCo4Fun]

I left DVD Decrypter running at home. Ill check it after work tonight to see if it worked.

[Gurm]

Ok, someone PLEASE tell me what this "blank space" thing is? Are people just retarded? WHAT IS GOING ON? I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS SO-CALLED "BLANK SPACE" THING!?!?!?!?!?!?

You ask a question and nobody chooses to answer.

[Bullworth]

Still having problems. Did two rips: One with DVD Decrypter and one with AnyDVD running in the background. With the former it inserted dummy data and with the latter it reported Pack Header errors.
When I tried to run either one through VOB Blanker it would run everything fine until it reached the movie VOBs and reported a problem with the VOB IFO: Unsynchronized.
Ran AnyDVD and then processed through VOB Blanker and it went through no problem, took a while though. Running through DVD-RB right now so I'll let you know how it comes out when I get home.
What setting are you guys using with Decrypter because weather I set the Structure Protection to Normal or Agressive VOB Blanker and Shrink will both fail. I tried the ISO mode and it also fails. I don't mind the VOB Blanker workaround but I want this to work through Decrypter/want to figure it out.
Gurm, I guess I'll briefly explain since it looks you're about to loose it. What's going on with Sony's new encryption is that they intentionally insert bad sectors in the DVD to screw up rippers. The ones that can rip them will result in blank film sometimes at the beginning of the DVD movie, etc. When you try to play this backup as is it will just show up as a blank screen which either will eventually play the movie or not at all. The three movies mentioned earlier have this problem and if you do a search on other backup sites you'll find alot of info.

[jtoolman2000]

DId you use the very latest Any DVD? V 4.5.6.2. I just did my disk and ran it directly through Shrink with any DVD in the back ground. Worked perfectly

[Bullworth]

Yep, using the lastest one. Since the reduction ratio was going to be almost 50% with Shrink I opted to use DVD-RD. Just finished and so far so good. Checked with IfoEdit and no issues, no warnings when rebuilding either. Running AnyDVD and then editing with VOB Blanker worked fine. I just want to undestand how some people can rip it with Decrypter and some can't, just something I'm trying to figure out.
In the meantime I'm burning it right now, with menus, extras. Will let you know tomorrow how it turns out.

[SoCo4Fun]

I upgraded to the newest version of DVD Decrypter and it worked fine. I ripped it with DVD Decrypter used Shrink to remove everything except the main movie and burned it using Intervideo DVD Copy 2.

[Bullworth]

Burned it, put it in the DVD player and it worked fine. Played with no delays or problems. This was the result of the AnyDVD/VOB Blanker method. Whenever I used Decrypter it would not be accepted at all by Shrink, displaying there was an error with the VOBs/IFOs and VOB Blanker would stop as soon as it hit the first movie VOB with a synchronization warning and stop.

[Gurm]

And still nobody has responded to my question! ARGH!

[BJ_M]

And still nobody has responded to my question! ARGH!

the question has been asnswered already -- on a couple threads -- a form of copy protection

[stiltman]

And still nobody has responded to my question! ARGH!

the question has been asnswered already -- on a couple threads -- a form of copy protection

Grum, I don't know what they are talking about either. I haven't seen this so called problem with these movies. Then again, most everyone here has been able to use DVD Decrypter and I couldn't has it would never out put a usable file. If I create an ISO then opened it in shrink, shrink would chew up all my memory till it wouldn't continue anymore with a memory error. I had to use anydvd and with the grudge, I couldn't copy and paste the files to my HDD. I had to process it directly through shrink.