Editing: JVC DVD Recorder

[DVWannaB]

Hi all,

Need some help from anyone using the JVC DVD-Recorder line-up.

I just received my MH30 and I did a test capture this weekend. Now I would like to edit out commercials and split. The split seems straight forward enough, but I am having a devil of a time trying to edit. The manual so far has proved less than adequate. When I first plugged in and started setting up, I encountered different screens and directions than what is in the manual. Luckily, I was able to go back 2 or 3 times and kinda figured out what to do. . Which brings me to the editing titles on the hard drive. Manual is useless here, as I am getting directions that dont correspond to what I am seeing on the screen and cant find a work-around.

So I am stuck in the commercial/segment cut/editing. Can a JVC user, give me a quick and dirty editing session? How to do it? Thanks.

[lordsmurf]

I do my DRM10 editing on the computer.

[pepegot1]

Capture wth DR-M10 and edit with a good Editor, i.e., VideoRedo, unless you like to do it the hard way.

[DVWannaB]

Ok, I'm getting the impression that editing on the JVC is akin to pulling teeth without anesthesia!!

So split title and burn to DVD-RW and edit on the comp. Wha' 'sup with that, JVC!!!! Strike one!

[trock]

As the manual states: "There may be a discrepency of several seconds between the scene you intend to edit, and the scene which is actually edited."

Unless that is acceptable to you, edit it on the PC.

[DVWannaB]

Ok, guys, thanks for replies. I feel better now, as I thought I was just being a block-head in not understanding how to do it. Its not just me

I tell you what, that manual is a doozy!!! Some how it may have been written for another model and just thrown into the MH30 box (cheaper than re-writing/publishing). That thing is screwy like all heck!!! For those who never figured out how to program a basic VCR (most people) they are going to really LOVE this unit

[Coruscant]

I have this setup as well but am encountering problems. I have recorded several movies and extracted them to by hard drive using DVD Decrypter's IFO mode. This was done according to a guide found at that product's website since VideoRedo is still finicky when it comes to handling VOBs. Once on my drive in the form of a single VOB, I found that VideoRedo, and indeed PowerDVD and WinDVD could not process the VOB properly. The true length of the the film was no longer accurately represented, a 90-minute movie ending up with a run time just under 3 minutes. The first 40 seconds would play normally, then suddenly the film would accelerate to 40X normal speed until the end while the timer counted in actual seconds. I determined that:

1) The DVD decoder had nothing do do with it as both WinDVD and PowerDVD were equally affected.

2) DVD-Rs seemed less affected than DVD-RWs but still, a 90-minute movie might only have a actual run time of 20-45 minutes in both the software players and VideoRedo.

3) A test extraction from one of my DVD boxsets didn't have this issue.

4) Womble MPEG-VCR had no problem playing and editing the movie at normal speed throughout.

5) When these same screwy VOBs are reauthored to another DVD, they behave normally again.

Has anyone run across this issue before? Is this a sign of something being wrong with my M10s?

[lordsmurf]

It does not sound like a JVC issue.

It sounds more like a file was corrupted when transferred. Be sure the PC hard drive is defragmented. Or it was not extract well.

Try this guide:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/edit/recorderedit/recorderedit.htm

[Pict01]

Ok, I'm getting the impression that editing on the JVC is akin to pulling teeth without anesthesia!!

So split title and burn to DVD-RW and edit on the comp. Wha' 'sup with that, JVC!!!! Strike one!

If all you want to do is remove the adverts before burning on DVD, then create a playlist. select only those portions of the title that have the actual film and then burn the playlist. As it (and others have stated) the editing points are to the nearest second as oppossed to being to the frame when using a PC and competent software.

However having to burn to dvd and then re-edit on pc seems to me to reduce the value of the jvc, I could just capture direct to the pc in the 1st place.

[lordsmurf]

, I could just capture direct to the pc in the 1st place.

But the quality would not be the same. That's the biggest draw to this recorder: the quality. It easily outperforms Hauppauge or ATI (in many regards, thought not all), the two top quality MPEG cards.

[pepegot1]

You tell 'em Smurf!!!

[Pict01]

so if I capture DVD quality, full frame, 25fps that is not as good as capturing on JVC. hmmmm

[Coruscant]

A measure of success. The developers of VideoReDo suggested I filter the VOBs through its built-in QuickStream utility. That was quick enough and once done, the VOBs had normal running times. However, there is now a problem with video resync frames being deleted causing the video to jump forward slightly every 30 or 45 seconds. I've given them recording samples and they're looking into it.

[pepegot1]

Go to VideoRedo and enter their forum. They have beta version which will deal with this problem better. They also give you a quick response to your questions.

[FreakZilla]

Hi DVWannaB,

Not sure if this is what your looking for but here is what lingoguysw5 posted before:

'You need to select EDIT using your control then CREATE and each time you want to stop the scene let's say for adverts you press the ENTER key until you reach the end of your movie then once satisfied save it as a playlist giving it a name if you so desire and an index thumbnail so you know what it is all about. Any excess you don't want on the end you just delete selecting the DELETE option found under EDIT.

You can also jump backwards and forwards using the jump option f (default set at 15 mins) or using the FF/RW keys.

Once you've created the playlist however do not delete the original until you have it saved somewhere otherwise you will lose the playlist too. I hope that helps'

[DVWannaB]

Hi DVWannaB,

Not sure if this is what your looking for but here is what lingoguysw5 posted before:

'You need to select EDIT using your control then CREATE and each time you want to stop the scene let's say for adverts you press the ENTER key until you reach the end of your movie then once satisfied save it as a playlist giving it a name if you so desire and an index thumbnail so you know what it is all about. Any excess you don't want on the end you just delete selecting the DELETE option found under EDIT.

You can also jump backwards and forwards using the jump option f (default set at 15 mins) or using the FF/RW keys.

Once you've created the playlist however do not delete the original until you have it saved somewhere otherwise you will lose the playlist too. I hope that helps'

Thanks Freak. I figured it out some time ago (forgot to check back on the thread). Cuts are dag-gone accurate too. Really cool stuff.

[Robbins1940]

Just record to hard disc, then afterwards create a playlist with the adds cutout and then dub to dvd.

Don't cut the program on the hard disc as you will end up losing recording time and the only way to recover that lost time is to erase everything on the disc and then force a reboot by pressing stop and power buttons on the machine.

David