Best way to put 2 xvids on one DVD

[sammyadams]

I have been looking and looking but haven't found the tutorial that I need. Maybe you can help. I have 2 xvids that I want to put on one DVD. They are different enough that I can't join them. I have used Nero Express and it worked fine......but I would like something with better quality. I use DVD-RB with CCE for my movies and love the results. Is there some program that will let me encode with CCE and then burn it for me? From what I am reading, I think I need to mess with bitrate when encoding so they will both fit. I am not sure how to do that. As far as the menu goes.......Just a simple one that would allow me to pick one or the other. Any thoughts? Thanks again.

[RDS1955]

Try using DVDSanta.... It''ll convert the Xvids over to DVD Format and combine them both onto one DVD (Depending on the size of em..) Then search here in the forums for how to create a simple dvd menu, incorporate that into your DVD Files, and create a DVD..

[sammyadams]

I am a bit leary of using a built in encoder as the results are not what I hoped for. That is why I want to use something like CCE. I already did it with Nero Express and it worked fine.....just not the quality that I think I can get with CCE.

[scottie78]

Just open the first file in CCE itself, set your settings, and encode. Repeat for file 2. Author. Burn.

... and you are right - it's the bitrate that determines all. Use a bitrate calculator, plug in the total running time of both files combined, choose your audio bitrate, then encode your files individually using the bitrate the calculator tells you. You can then encode your audio to the bitrate you desire using ffmpeggui or besweet, and let your authoring software join the video and audio back together.

Alternatively, Jimmalenko has a good guide for this exact process (except for using TMPGEnc instead) at http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/AVI2DVD.htm .

[macleod]

www.thefilmachine.com

[reboot]

IMHO: tmpgenc to encode, dvdlab to author.

[funkguy4]

AVISynth + CCE = solution

[sammyadams]

Ok......thanks for the help but I have a few more questions. Do I want Variable bitrate compression or constant? If I want variable......how do I find the max and min........I don't see that information on the Bitrate Calculator. And last but not least.........I tried using CCE SP (trial version--yes I know there will be a water mark but want to see if I can get it working before I get it) but the number of setting in that thing is just brutal. Does anyone know of a guide to understanding those settings or what ones I would use? I will try the TMPGEnc but I have been told that CCE is better.

[macleod]

For the variable or constant bitrate question....it depends . Most people will say that variable does 3 things:
1. makes the final product look better
2. puts the most amount of video on one disc (accuracy)
3. takes longer than constant

I believe that the min should be 300 and the high should be around/under 9,000. The thing is, it also depends on what your source is

If you are going to use CCE SP, I would recommend using DVD2SVCD (there is a function for AVI/Divx to DVD option) to automate the CCE process a little.

course, if you are just wanting to get it done and not deal with all this, you could try www.thefilmachine.com (of course, use divfix first to make sure there are no bad frames).

BTW, TMPGENC IMO can go head to head with CCE anyday. Both have their "best times to use" and it all depends onwhat you are converting from and converting to.

[funkguy4]

BTW, TMPGENC IMO can go head to head with CCE anyday. Both have their "best times to use" and it all depends onwhat you are converting from and converting to.

Oh, it can. I just like to use CCE because it doesn't take half a day to encode something that's 2hrs long...

and i think you can set the minimum bitrate to 0 actually, just to give CCE that much more freedom. I'd recommend the two-pass VBR. Some say three..some more...but with a bitrate like this it won't make much difference. Make sure to use the end credits setting to tell it where to stop using the higher bitrate. And, although I'm sure someone will disagree with this, I like to set the VBR Bias to 0 to give it all the freedom to allocate bits where they're needed. Make sure to set the Intra DC precision to whatever your source is (most DVD sources are 10, idk about DV). If your source is progressive, set the scan order to zigzag, else to alternate. There's guides out there for this, i'm just putting down things off the top of my head.

oh yeah i forgot...you'll prolly be like "wtf is he smoking i don't see those"....go get EclCCE, it's cool

[monzie]

TMPGenc IS NOT in the same league as CCE....and their is NO reason to use TMPG if you have CCE.....ever....ever....even CCE Basic is far better than TMPG...but it DOES require more understanding of what you are doing.....which is surely the whole point of LEARNING?

No good CCE user would EVER use a bitrate as high as 9000kbs UNLESS they was using it as an anti copy method......and yes i KNOW you can go higher (incase anyone asks).

[funkguy4]

TMPGenc IS NOT in the same league as CCE....and their is NO reason to use TMPG if you have CCE.....ever....ever....even CCE Basic is far better than TMPG...but it DOES require more understanding of what you are doing.....which is surely the whole point of LEARNING?

No good CCE user would EVER use a bitrate as high as 9000kbs UNLESS they was using it as an anti copy method......and yes i KNOW you can go higher (incase anyone asks).

TMPGEnc allows much more tweakage than CCE Basic. Output video quality is a subjective thing. For me, w/ the tweaking much better than CCE Basic's, it outputs better video, though at the cost of speed. I don't like how it only can process RGB even though it's main output system is YUV. I'm a TMPGEnc user since the start of my video conversion days that has now crossed over to the CCE side btw.