Use of Vdub and/or TMPGEnc filters

[Phoebos]

Satstorm says in his guide:

"There are many filters to play with, but soon or later, especially for PAL VHS sources, you will use the following: rmPAL, Temporal Smoother, Dynamic Noise Reduction, Pal frame restorer, logoaway and delogo. Search and download those filters from the internet, read about them and you will always use them one way or other for your rest of your life!"


When converting from VHS to avi for DVD purposes can u please tell if you usually use VirtualDub filters (and which) before you encode, or TMPGEnc filters or a combination between the two? I personally give some add to saturation sometimes because the colors are not so bright to old VHS tapes but for the rest I can t say.

[jimmalenko]

I capture VHS or TV via an ADVC-100 and use Convolution3D for noise removal via an AVISynth script. It is much quicker than TMPGEnc's in-built noise reduction filter. There's plenty of AVISynth filters you can use. There is a comprehensive list of them here.

FulciLives wrote this guide which is a good starting point IMO for getting into editing, AVISynth scripting, and outputting to your favorite MPEG encoder, all without the need to create any intermediate files inbetween.

[Phoebos]

Thnks a lot Jim, but to be honest I was always been afraid of Avisynth as an application far beyond my "mouse only" capabilities. You see it s a script...I m wondering if it is better to leave TMPGEnc spend its time alone on the Pc rather than myself spending time to find out what to do with such kind of procedures as Fulcilives discribes in his wonderful (but for those with time and guts) guide.

[jimmalenko]

Thnks a lot Jim, but to be honest I was always been afraid of Avisynth as an application far beyond my "mouse only" capabilities. You see it s a script...I m wondering if it is better to leave TMPGEnc spend its time alone on the Pc rather than myself spending time to find out what to do with such kind of procedures as Fulcilives discribes in his wonderful (but for those with time and guts) guide.

To be honest, I was the same when I started. I'd PM-ed Fulci quite a few times before getting my ADVC-100, and he basically held my hand - that guide is word for word from one of the PMs he sent me

IMO the benefits outweigh the learning curve. For starters, "without the need to create any intermediate files inbetween" is probably the greatest advantage IMO of using these scripts. As I said, the only filter I use via scripting is Convolution3D, so I just stick to the guide as written. I still use some of the TMPGEnc filters in addition to this, such as color correction.

It's up to you though

[NamPla]

Here here to fellow Convolution3D fans! :P

I was in the same boat re: Avisynth, but FulciLives' cool guide was the stepping stone I needed to launch myself into scripting & stuff. It's NOT difficult at all!

It would have been bloody difficult to teach myself all that stuff, particularly with filtering interlaced material etc, but FulciLives provides an excellent starting point.

I've tried other Avisynth de-noisers, like PeachSmoother, RemoveGrain/Remove Dirt combo, Undot/Deen combo, etc. All very good, but I always return to the faithful Convolution3D, it cleans excellently & is artifact-free. And is lots quicker than TMPGEnc's built in NR (which is also, I might add, very good too).

Well worth the few minutes of your time to read the guide! Don't be scared!

[Phoebos]

Thank you very much guys , I ll give it a try