Problems with Napoleon dynamite

[90blackcrx]

Well I just went and bought this movie, come home and rip it to my hard with dvd decrypter, no problems there. Then I burned it using tmpgenc author and no problems there. I try playing it on my ps2 and it won't go past chapter 16. I go downstairs pop it in my other dvd player and it goes past chapter 16 but just skips really bad. I was thinking since its a 2 sided disc ( original napolean dynamite ) might have something to do with it. Any suggestions ?

[freestyler]

What's on each side of the disc?

The disc being two-sided shouldn't matter.

Why don't you burn it with DVD Decrypter?

[90blackcrx]

Because I have been using tmpgenc author to burn dvd and not have had a problem. Plus last time I tried using dvd decrypter to burn stuff, it would not work. I did everything right but still would not work.

One side is widescreen with extras, other side is full screen.

[jimmalenko]

Details, dude !

Have you just retained one aspect (ie widescreen of fullscreen) or have you tried to use both ?

Did you know that you can still use TMPGEnc DVD Author's burning engine to burn, even though you've used DVDDecrypter to create the ISO

[90blackcrx]

Details

I am only trying to burn the widescreen.

I put it in, rip it to my hard drive with dvd decrypter. It rips the vob files into a video_ts folder.

I open tmpgenc author and click write media onto a dvd. Follow the simple steps and everything seems to have worked great, put it in and boom the problems are there. I tryied doing it 3 times and on each DVD-R at the same point the dvd freezes ( gives me a disc read error ) . And I know its not the media because I just burned a movie earlier and it came out perfect.

[jimmalenko]

What happens when you play that section straight off your hard drive ?

What happens when you play that section of the burnt disc in your PC ?

[90blackcrx]

Played the file that is on the hard drive and had no problems

Played the bad cd on the pc and had no problems on the scene.

But for some odd reason which it might always say this but I never saw it, when I opened up the dvd-r it said files currently on this cd, which just made me think the session never closed properly for some odd reason. But this message might be normal.

Anyways what do you guys think ?

[jimmalenko]

I'll still back the media FWIW ...

[90blackcrx]

What do you mean ? I am using pro disc which I will agree there not the best but I went threw about 50 and have had some really good turn outs. I also opened up a new pack just to make sure it was not the media.

[jimmalenko]

Just because one disc in a spindle is unblemished and error-free does not, and is certainly no indication of that the next disc won't be utter shite.

[90blackcrx]

But 3 in a row, at the same exact spot ?

And what are some good afforable dvd-r. I heard pro disc were not that bad.

[jimmalenko]

But 3 in a row, at the same exact spot ?

You never said that to start with !

We're not mind readers here. That's why I said "Details !". You need to explain everything - source, software & methods used, behaviour exibited ... no-one here is under any obligation to help, so when they do offer assistance, give them the courtesy of supplying all the information. This forum is not your own personal helpdesk

I wish to amend my statement of what I think it is to " I believe that the problem exists somewhere between the keyboard and the chair".

[90blackcrx]

But 3 in a row, at the same exact spot ?

You never said that to start with !

We're not mind readers here. That's why I said "Details !". You need to explain everything - source, software & methods used, behaviour exibited ... no-one here is under any obligation to help, so when they do offer assistance, give them the courtesy of supplying all the information. This forum is not your own personal helpdesk

I wish to amend my statement of what I think it is to " I believe that the problem exists somewhere between the keyboard and the chair".

Read up above or read below, I stated I tried this 3 times with the same
exact results.

Follow the simple steps and everything seems to have worked great, put it in and boom the problems are there. I tryied doing it 3 times and on each DVD-R at the same point the dvd freezes ( gives me a disc read error ) . And I know its not the media because I just burned a movie earlier and it came out perfect.

Do we really need to start insulting people , come on .

[johns0]

Sounds most likely media,i had 15 straight perfect burns in one 50 batch then the next 5 being pure crap then the next 15 being good etc..

[90blackcrx]

Sounds most likely media,i had 15 straight perfect burns in one 50 batch then the next 5 being pure crap then the next 15 being good etc..

I'll try again and see if anything different happens

[jimmalenko]

I'm out ...

[90blackcrx]

I'm out ...

What ever, I said it up above there was no need for the insults. I'm not gonna argue, I know your always a big help but the insult was not needed, specially when I said it up above.

Anyways just to add, for some odd reason dvd shrink will not recognize the disc and my computer takes a really long time to find the dvd which is not like my pc.

Anyways I'll try one more time since I like the movie so much.

[jimmalenko]

I'm out ...

What ever, I said it up above there was no need for the insults. I'm not gonna argue, I know your always a big help but the insult was not needed, specially when I said it up above.

Dude, that's not an insult. To prove it, I've reported myself in the report this post thread so the mods can assess.

[MackemX]

now then,now then, what's all this then?

LMAO, take it all with a pinch of salt though I like tartar sauce to be exact and there are no insults here just a little frustration

chill people it's XMAS day in less than 48 hours, WAHOOOOOOOOO

what were you using to play the discs on the PC? some software players are a lot less forgiving than standalones and should not be taken as a guarantee that it will play on a standalone

[Capmaster]

No insult. The suggestion of "The problem lies between the keyboard and the chair" is another way of saying "user error" or "pilot error". If we warned everyone who suggested the querying member might be doing something wrong, the forum would soon echo like a ghost town

90blackcrx - Try not to be so sensitive. That term has been used before as a humorous, polite way of saying "RTFM Noob!!"

[MackemX]

is every disc error in exactly the same spot or roughly the same spot? Have you checked the blanks for imperfections in the dye?

are you saying DVDshrink doesn't recognise the burnt DVD or the original DVD?
are you just copying the DVD 1:1 by ripping and burning?
if you are, why not just rip and burn with DVDDecrypter?


here's something for you to try anyway

Import the ripped DVD files on your PC into DVDShrink and see if it accepts the files. If it does then process it with No Compression and output as an ISO and burn with DVDDecrypter

[jimmalenko]

That term has been used before as a humorous, polite way of saying "RTFM Noob!!"

Better ? j/k

[90blackcrx]

now then,now then, what's all this then?

LMAO, take it all with a pinch of salt though I like tartar sauce to be exact and there are no insults here just a little frustration

chill people it's XMAS day in less than 48 hours, WAHOOOOOOOOO

what were you using to play the discs on the PC? some software players are a lot less forgiving than standalones and should not be taken as a guarantee that it will play on a standalone

I tried using my ps2 and it froze in the same spot, I tried using it on my standalone and it froze in the same spot, actually on my ps2 it would not play pass the spot but on the standalone it would play past it but skip really bad. And I tried it on my pc and it worked fine.

I just burned another copy, and this 1 will not even play. It just gives me a disc read error and I used the same method that I have been using.

And the dvd-r that did play, yes they were all in the same spot. Example, they would play up to chapter 15 and boom then just stop. Also the dvd-r have no writing on them so what would I be looking for ?

Awhile back I tried burning with dvd decrypter and outputing an iso file with dvd shrink but it would not work. For some odd reason it was like the file was not compatiable with any dvd player so I really hate to even mess with this way again.

jimmalenko I thought you were banging your head because I was not being helpful, no hard feelings

are you saying DVDshrink doesn't recognise the burnt DVD or the original DVD?
are you just copying the DVD 1:1 by ripping and burning?
if you are, why not just rip and burn with DVDDecrypter?

DvD shrink will not recognize the original dvd. I am ripping the dvd onto my hard drive with dvd decrypter and I have not had any good outcomes when burning with dvd decrypter.


Hopefully I answered everyones questions and I can figure something out.

[90blackcrx]

Anyone else ? For some odd reason I just feel its the original dvd giving me problems.

My reason behind it is, I have burned about 5 other movies before this and I never had a problem. I also burned 2 movies on the same day and still never had a problem

[Shadowmistress]

Here's a checklist I would like you to answer:

1. Have you defragged your computer lately?
2. Do you have enough harddrive space free that the burning software needs for a temporary file?
3. Have you made any program/codec/software/setting changes to your computer between the time you burned those 5 successful discs and this time?
4. Have you ripped a dual layer original dvd before?
5. If you try to burn another movie, one you have done successfully in the past, will this new disc play or present problems?
6. Have you tried re-ripping the movie? Perhaps there was a hiccup in the original rip. Remember your computer can ignore stuff on playback it cannot ignore when encoding.
7. Are you performing any other tasks on your computer while it is writing?
8. Have you messed with the menu structure in any way between the rip and the burn?
9. Are you overburning the disc?
10. Where exactly does it start sticking? Comparing it to the original, would the sticking be in the middle of the first side, in the middle of the second side, or right where it switches sides?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[MackemX]

are you on ntfs file system if you are using ISO'?s?
do you have auto notification turned on on the drive? (I didn't and always got grief when inserting a new disc)
have you tried rebooting before doing anything?

you say Shrink doesn't recognise the so you use DVDDecrypter. It sounds as if DVDDecrypter is either trying to fix the bad disc by either inserting/skipping sectors

it will still give you the file but it won't be valid , so it looks as if the original DVD is faulty and all you are doing is copying the fault

do you not have another DVD drive you can try the disc in. Some drives read faulty DVD's better than others

thats why I thought about running the files on your PC through DVDShrink to see if it will accept them. If it does then hopefully if you process them through DVDShrink it will fix any corrupt sectors

[AlecWest]

I'm surprised no one has suggested this before ... but here goes.

There could be a problem on your original DVD that is "forgiven" by both your standalone player and PS2 that is not forgiven by your DVD burner during the capture or burn process. Sometimes, simply "re-encoding" will eliminate those flaws. Have you tried turning your DVD files into a single MPG, then re-encoding it with TMPGEnc for a new burn? That might solve the issue.

[90blackcrx]

Here's a checklist I would like you to answer:

1. Have you defragged your computer lately?
2. Do you have enough harddrive space free that the burning software needs for a temporary file?
3. Have you made any program/codec/software/setting changes to your computer between the time you burned those 5 successful discs and this time?
4. Have you ripped a dual layer original dvd before?
5. If you try to burn another movie, one you have done successfully in the past, will this new disc play or present problems?
6. Have you tried re-ripping the movie? Perhaps there was a hiccup in the original rip. Remember your computer can ignore stuff on playback it cannot ignore when encoding.
7. Are you performing any other tasks on your computer while it is writing?
8. Have you messed with the menu structure in any way between the rip and the burn?
9. Are you overburning the disc?
10. Where exactly does it start sticking? Comparing it to the original, would the sticking be in the middle of the first side, in the middle of the second side, or right where it switches sides?

Enquiring minds want to know.

1. Yes, but it was not last week. But since burning all the other dvd I really have not done anything different to my pc. I will do so today.
2. Yes I have enough hard drive space or else my pc would not let me do any of this.
3. I added ac3 codec, well reinstalled it but no I really have not.
4. Dual layer, that would be any movie bought from a store right ? If so yes I have.
5. Gonna try today, I can't really recall if I used dvd shrink before instead of just using tmpgenc author to burn it, but I'm gonna find a short movie and do it this way.
6. Yep, I actually ripped the widescreen and fullscreen side, and they both freeze in the same spot still.
7. Nope, I leave my computer.
8. Have not messed with any menu structure
9. Whats overburning ? I don't think I am
10. It skips right at chapter 16, and there are about 30 chapters in the movie.

I'm surprised no one has suggested this before ... but here goes.

There could be a problem on your original DVD that is "forgiven" by both your standalone player and PS2 that is not forgiven by your DVD burner during the capture or burn process. Sometimes, simply "re-encoding" will eliminate those flaws. Have you tried turning your DVD files into a single MPG, then re-encoding it with TMPGEnc for a new burn? That might solve the issue.

I have not because I'm not really sure how to do so, what would I need to combine all the files. If its really involved forget it.

are you on ntfs file system if you are using ISO'?s?
do you have auto notification turned on on the drive? (I didn't and always got grief when inserting a new disc)
have you tried rebooting before doing anything?

you say Shrink doesn't recognise the so you use DVDDecrypter. It sounds as if DVDDecrypter is either trying to fix the bad disc by either inserting/skipping sectors

it will still give you the file but it won't be valid , so it looks as if the original DVD is faulty and all you are doing is copying the fault

do you not have another DVD drive you can try the disc in. Some drives read faulty DVD's better than others

thats why I thought about running the files on your PC through DVDShrink to see if it will accept them. If it does then hopefully if you process them through DVDShrink it will fix any corrupt sectors

Yes I have auto detect on, I have another drive but its a dvd player and not a dvd burner. Basically when I put it in my pc, I can hear my pc trying to load it, and I see the light flashing, it will do this for about 5 to 10 mins, sometimes it will recognize the dvd and sometimes it won't stop trying to read it.

I kind of stated this above but, I usually stick the dvd and open dvd shrink and shrink it down, but this movie was so small it did not need shrinking. So I just burned them with tmpegnc author, could that be the problem ? If I would of stuck it in dvd shrink and did it that way, would it of came out the same way ( skipping )?

[90blackcrx]

Well I got it to work, someone please explain to me why it worked.

I ran it threw dvd shrink this time, I basically only unchecked french and spanish subtitles ( I don't think this was the problem before though ) anyways I pressed backup on dvd shrink and this re-encodes it correct ? Then burned it with tmpgenc author. So why did it work this way ?

jimmalenko I remember one time you telling me there was no reason to run a file threw dvd shrink if it does not need to be shrinked, well I wanted to ask you if you ment this with only files that I re-encoded myself with tmpgenc plus or any file ? Hope that made some sense, I'm not trying to blame you, but like I said before , you know your stuff and the things you say really stick in my head.

I guess I will run my movies threw dvd shrink before I burn them, my question is will running them threw dvd shrink effect the quality at all ( if the movie does not get shrunk down of course )

[AlecWest]

I have not because I'm not really sure how to do so, what would I need to combine all the files. If its really involved forget it.

Yes, it's really involved. But there's a simple/cheap way to check out my theory. Since you own the DVD, you're entitled to a backup ... which is why I assume you're ripping it to burn. Rent it. Rip/Burn the rental. If it turns out OK, the problem is with your original disk not your software or hardware. If it doesn't turn out OK, you're out the rental fee ... but you now know it's a software or hardware issue unrelated to your DVD.