Need a SCSI DVD writer

[gastorgrab]

Are they available? All i can find are PATA, or SATA and i'm unwilling to use an adapter.

SATA - SCSI converter

ATAPI-SCSI Converter


Is external the only option?

[ViRaL1]

Pretty slim pickins there...

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDname=&Submit=Search&cdrs=&cdrws=&dvdrs=&dvd...&Search=Search

There may be others, but I'm sure not many. Have you considered adding another ATA controller if yours is full, or if you don't have one?

[BJ_M]

the LF-D291 is no longer sold -- it was replaced by the LF-D211 offers the same functionality and is also SCSI interface.

but those are DVD-RAM recorders ...


really your only choice is the DVR-S201 @ $3800

[Capmaster]

the LF-D291 is no longer sold -- it was replaced by the LF-D211 offers the same functionality and is also SCSI interface.

but those are DVD-RAM recorders ...

Aren't they DVD-R/DVD-RAM?

[rallynavvie]

Damn yeah, I'd love a SCSI burner too, get rid of all the damn IDE cables in my case. Least I saw that Pioneer drive go for on eBay was $400. I'd pay $100 for a SCSI burner even if it only did 2x speeds, but anything more and I'd have to lean toward the 108 again.

[studtrooper]

Honestly, what for? PATA/SATA drives would be better since SCSI is a few generations behind. There is nothing SCSI burners can do that PATA or SATA burners couldn't. I guess I'll never know why so many people pay out their ass for antiquated SCSI hardware...

[ViRaL1]

Not sure what the real advantage is, but I do know that the S201 was for authoring, not general. If you need something like that $400 probably isn't bad.

[rallynavvie]

There is nothing SCSI burners can do that PATA or SATA burners couldn't.

What SCSI always has over the competition, onboard controllers. When every little bit counts it's better to have the controller on the device rather than have your system controlling it. It also allows for having a lot more devices attached, so SCSI burners would work woderfully in a replicator.

[gastorgrab]

Pretty slim pickins there...

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDname=&Submit=Search&cdrs=&cdrws=&dvdrs=&dvd...&Search=Search

There may be others, but I'm sure not many. Have you considered adding another ATA controller if yours is full, or if you don't have one?

A little out of my price range (around 200%)..........and DVD-Ram.

I'd like to stick with one thing on this system and not have hundreds of cables in my case.

I guess i'll have to get a FireWire External.

[studtrooper]

What SCSI always has over the competition, onboard controllers.

This may have been true back in the days of no buffer-underrun protection, but it is moot now with said protection and ample amounts of physical and virtual cache.

It also allows for having a lot more devices attached, so SCSI burners would work woderfully in a replicator.

Yeah, but if you are "replicating" at 2x, what is the point? I would rather have a 4 disk replicator burning at 8x or 12x than a string of 10 SCSI 2x drives cranking out 10 disks every 30 some-odd minutes. Not to mention the probably astronomical cost over traditional PATA/SATA optical drives...

[BJ_M]

Honestly, what for? PATA/SATA drives would be better since SCSI is a few generations behind. There is nothing SCSI burners can do that PATA or SATA burners couldn't. I guess I'll never know why so many people pay out their ass for antiquated SCSI hardware...

you don't know what you are talking about in simple terms ... do some reading up on scsi .. for one thing - show me a sata controller that can have 15 devices per cable all operating at ata150 levels bi-directional .. though fiberchannel is even a higher step in many top servers ..

[studtrooper]

Honestly, what for? PATA/SATA drives would be better since SCSI is a few generations behind. There is nothing SCSI burners can do that PATA or SATA burners couldn't. I guess I'll never know why so many people pay out their ass for antiquated SCSI hardware...

you don't know what you are talking about in simple terms ... do some reading up on scsi .. for one thing - show me a sata controller that can have 15 devices per cable all operating at ata150 levels bi-directional .. though fiberchannel is even a higher step in many top servers ..

SCSI typically isn't used for consumer means. While SCSI equipment is very useful for daisy-chaining (like your example) without maxing out thouroughput, it is not cost effective... at all, ever. When I said "SCSI is a few generations behind" I meant to specficy for optical drives. Even so, more and more IT people are using SATA instead of SCSI do to it being way more cost friendly on their bottom line...

[rallynavvie]

Bollocks to cost-effectiveness, you've got a Xeon machine. You can get just as good performance from more apps (because not many are SMP-aware) from an A64 machine for almost 1/4 the cost!

Companies that are migrating to SATA are going to save a buck but will get burned because of it. Even "enterprise SATA" like the Raptors cost near their SCSI counterparts (10k SATA is roughly equivalent in performance to 10k U160). Even with NCQ it still doesn't approach having a controller on the device itself. And SCSI equipment is still manufactured at much higher standards than SATA or IDE. But enterprise equipment is always going to be expensive, and servers aren't looking for price/GB more than they're looking at reliability, access times, and integration. SCSI tech is even making the leap to networking with iSCSI. But it is true that the reason there aren't many SCSI DVD burners, as I've found from shopping for them, is because the tech isn't needed all that much on them.

You're right, it isn't a consumer-level thing, but I'm not going to bash on a Ferrari just because I can't afford one.

[studtrooper]

Heh, I have a Xeon based machine due to a few awesome deals I was able to get, plus at the time my current Athlon XP based machine was showing its age.

You're right about the Ferrari thing though, I saw the new 300GB SCSI HDD at newegg for around $1,500. That is just insane...

[JSB]

Damn yeah, I'd love a SCSI burner too, get rid of all the damn IDE cables in my case. Least I saw that Pioneer drive go for on eBay was $400. I'd pay $100 for a SCSI burner even if it only did 2x speeds, but anything more and I'd have to lean toward the 108 again.

I got a SCSI burner for ya... even a 4x

to bad it is a cd burner 4x4x16 :P

Seriously anybody want an old enternal Lacie SCSI CD buner? I think the interal drive is a Yamaha....

JSB

[BJ_M]

i still use a scsi cd burner - a plextor 12/10/32S ... dont have any reason to change it -- works fine and these burners will read disks that nothing else can touch .. in another machine i still have a plextor scsi 8x burner in it ...

[Skith]

I have a plextor UltraPlex 40 CD-ROM since 98, it still works wonderfully. I also have a SCSI HD(though it is a slower 7200RPM versions... I got it dirt cheap), a Quantum Atlas V, and its been running almost non-stop in various puters since 2000. I have been through 3 IDE drives (replaced from failures) in that amount of time.

SCSI in the average consumer desktop is way overkill, but for those mission crittical application/services, it is still very desirable. Also, I think there is a new Serial SCSI specification.