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[canadateck]

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[BJ_M]

the video card will make no difference at all ..


a card with the best color is about all that can help you .. like a matrox .. it is not a performance increase though

[canadateck]

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[canadateck]

I heard some cards can take some load off the Cpu, for better performance..Not true?

[BJ_M]

not true for the applications you listed (load off cpu) ..

for ntsc moniotring - you should monitor off the firewire output for your 13' tv (not off the graphics card) ..

for dual monitor setup , no performance increase, but nicer layout , but you will need a second monitor ...

[canadateck]

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[BJ_M]

yes

[canadateck]

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[BJ_M]

then you will need to buy a canopus system , or a matrox real time system or something along those lines -- plan on about a budget of 2000-5000 grand

[Deekkeed]

Unless you need a better video card for say ,games. Then if your current video card is decent, maybe you should consider upgrading you processor and memory to the fastest you can afford. I think this would be easiest way to improve performance.

deekkeed

[canadateck]

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[unclebud]

Real time is for previewing effects and such, some programs will render in the background (much longer time to render) but you can use the machine for other things such as surfing the net.

[pijetro]

When working with an NLE, there's no problems cutting, splicing, dicing, and adding video to a timeline. It's simply a pointer that tells your H.D.D. to play back the information as per timeline..If you work in Premiere, you'll notice, that once you put in a transition, or a second track, there's a red line, indicating that rendering needs to take place in order for proper playback..
Since you steered off course of your original footage, Premiere needs to recalculate the video. This takes time as you know...

Basically, the "real time" thing means, that Matrox, Canopus etc...all use their proprietary codecs to work together with their hardware cards, so that playback is instantaneous. Throw a transition, second video clip, and some colour correction, and you'll see the difference..
This is a real time saver for many..But as BJ_M stated, get your wallet out...

[pijetro]

Canadateck wrote:

Adobe® Premiere® Pro 1.5 software revolutionizes nonlinear video editing. Powerful real-time video and audio editing tools give you precise control over virtually every aspect of your production.

There's a major improvement on viewing pre-rendered material from previous versions..I can't say it's true realtime, but it's pretty close..
I sometimes think it's marketing..
U could easily do the same in previous versions of Premiere, by holding down the Alt-scrub key...

[canadateck]

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[BSR]

for ntsc moniotring - you should monitor off the firewire output for your 13' tv (not off the graphics card) ..

Any reason not to use a graphics card?
If you do any color correction, doesn't use of the firewire convert the video to DV 4:1:1 again, which could result in color loss?

Ahhhh... got it to work by shutting off my DV AV input on the camcorder.

[Redd]

This is real bargain. I bought this 3 years ago thinking I was going to edit a movie, but I never had the time. So, it is in pristine condition and I have only used it to upload about 4 hrs. of mini-DV tape.

Any Idea how much technology has changed in 3 years? This wouldn't be on my shopping list.

I use Vegas 5 and DVDA2 with no problems on my system. You can see my profile. I capture analog via a Canopus ADVC 100 and capture DV directly via firewire. All capturing is done with Scenalyzer.

[canadateck]

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[Leoslocks]

The reserve has not been met yet. I doubt that bundle will be sold for less than $500. The software would be better than what I have but so would your equipment.

[pijetro]

I personally have a leaning towards the Matrox RTX100 cards...
If you've got the software, then you can find the hardware for about $650 US..
With the Canadian dollar going up, this looks like a sweeter deal by the day...
Matrox is Montreal based..Help out your fellow Canadians man!!!

[canadateck]

Was reading some good stuff about Matrox, I'am looking into it further..Thanks

I thought ATI was Canadian to.

[edDV]

1. You won't see much difference in speed between Adobe Premiere Pro and Vegas 5. They both use the same MainConcept encoder package.

2. There are two kinds of "realtime". Software realtime allows lower resolution previews in realtime to allow faster preview tweaking but you still need to full render the final project. Hardware realtime will do a limited set of functions (e.g. mix, wipe, 2D scale and translation or more). These cards offload the CPU for those supported functions only, but put a much higher load on your disk system requiring simultaneous A-Roll, B-Roll and record streams. Costs mount quickly for hardware realtime. The Matrox RTX100 is probably the best of the low end cards but don't expect a large advantage.

3. Adding more than 512MB RAM is unlikely to affect speed, but will allow you to keep more applications open, e.g. Photoshop.

In other words, there is no free lunch.

[BJ_M]

Was reading some good stuff about Matrox, I'am looking into it further..Thanks

I thought ATI was Canadian to.

ATI is canadian

[BJ_M]

Vegas can also use multiple pc's for rendering - which in some cases can greatly speed things up ...

[edDV]

Yes unfortunately, that dosen't include MPeg rendering which is licensed only to the primary machine. Cluster rendering does work great for effects rendering though.

[BJ_M]

well actually you can frame serve from one pc to another for the mpg rendering - since the frame server works over a network ..

[edDV]

I'll have to try experimenting with that in free time between projects. Anyone write that up using Vegas or Premiere?

Also it would be great to find a cluster render solution for Architect 2 DVD rendering.

[DaveS]

you can also network render to an AVI and then render/frame serve that ... if you have a lot of effects etc. the first network render to AVI helps offload some work..will take two steps but is one way to go about it..

[DaveS]

if you are going to network render in vegas, make sure to get the latest updates and make very sure that the network render client installed on the machines are all the same and the latest version..

[edDV]

if you are going to network render in vegas, make sure to get the latest updates and make very sure that the network render client installed on the machines are all the same and the latest version..

I got it to work on 2 machines but the learning curve is great. There is still the need to assign rendering tasts. This is a work in process and I'm hoping a forum is forming focused on optimal Vegas rendering.

Currently, I'm using Premiere to render portions of the Project (separate machine) and Vegas for others and Architect 2 to render the DVD.