Self-Destructing DVDS About To Reach A Wider Audience

[lifesajrny]

Not really new news, but here is the link from ABC
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/ontv/111204_ent_destructing_dvds.html

[only_emo_kid]

not worky linky

[lifesajrny]

try this linky:
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/

[only_emo_kid]

cannot find server?

[shelbyGT]

First link worked for me just fine.

[waheed]

First link also works for me.

[Bullworth]

I'm not so sure that about what the Blockbuster spokesperson says. A 7-11 in the neighborhood put up these disposable DVDs about 5 months ago and while they weren't moving at first ever since they carried some of the more popular titles you rarely ever see the display fully stocked anymore.
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[mpojeep]

I'm wondering whether this dvds are labelled that they will not work within a certain amount of time.The reason I'm wondering is because maybe people are buying them thinking that they are getting a bargain and not knowing that after a prescribed time,these things are not going to be read by their players anymore.
Also wondering how many people are misled by this self-destructing dvds.

[only_emo_kid]

They come in a air sealed case or whutever, and after its opened then the air hits the disk and thats when it has like 48hrs or whutever...

[only_emo_kid]

wouldn't it be legal to make a backup of the self destructing dvds? if u still keep the original? LoL

[waheed]

wouldn't it be legal to make a backup of the self destructing dvds? if u still keep the original? LoL

Technically, YES it is LEGAL. as you have bought an original DVD, i dont see any reason why you cant make a backup.

Whether the DVD self destructs or not is an entirely different matter. The main point is you own the original and should be entitled a make a backup.

However, i have the greatest doubt that these dvds will ever appear in the UK. it seems to be a failure elsewhere.

[Roderz]

self destructing in 48hrs or whutever!!
what if you buy mission imposible on this format will it only last 5 seconds

[Jayhawk]

Technically, YES it is LEGAL. as you have bought an original DVD, i dont see any reason why you cant make a backup.

Technically, it probably isn't legal. The ones I have seen at some locations state they are "rental" without a "return" required. The problem I saw was that they usually cost $6 or more which is very high for a "rental".

[waheed]

The ones I have seen at some locations state they are "rental" without a "return" required. The problem I saw was that they usually cost $6 or more which is very high for a "rental".

That does not make any sense. If you dont need return a product, then technically, it cannot be classified as a rental. The movie studios need to look up the meaning of the rental in a dictionary. Yes, they can make an analogy with the word rental but it still aint a rental.

you can NEVER own a rental; be it house, car, dvd etc.., However, with these self-destruct dvds, you have actually made a PURCHASE and OWN the dvd.

[Darth Paris]

Does it even matter? If you are going to copy a DVD it won't matter because you can go out and rent it and then copy it. Having it be technically legal(which I don't think it is) isn't going to make someone go out and buy one of these disks and copy them and instead of renting it.

[neomaine]

Not that I'm even close to being a lawyer, but,

I think it'll be only somewhat legal to have a backup of the DVD for the life of the DVD...yep, for 2 days. Then like a purchased DVD, once you don't own the right (sell, give away....) to watch it you no longer have the right to have a backup.

[Capmaster]

Not that I'm even close to being a lawyer, but,

I think it'll be only somewhat legal to have a backup of the DVD for the life of the DVD...yep, for 2 days. Then like a purchased DVD, once you don't own the right (sell, give away....) to watch it you no longer have the right to have a backup.

I'll bet that'll cause a whole crowd of people rushing to the dumpster to dispose of the DVD-R backups they made of the 2-day kamikaze DVDs

[only_emo_kid]

The ones I have seen at some locations state they are "rental" without a "return" required. The problem I saw was that they usually cost $6 or more which is very high for a "rental".

That does not make any sense. If you dont need return a product, then technically, it cannot be classified as a rental. The movie studios need to look up the meaning of the rental in a dictionary. Yes, they can make an analogy with the word rental but it still aint a rental.

you can NEVER own a rental; be it house, car, dvd etc.., However, with these self-destruct dvds, you have actually made a PURCHASE and OWN the dvd.

whut about rent to own stuff? lmao

[waheed]

Not that I'm even close to being a lawyer, but,

I think it'll be only somewhat legal to have a backup of the DVD for the life of the DVD...yep, for 2 days. Then like a purchased DVD, once you don't own the right (sell, give away....) to watch it you no longer have the right to have a backup.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. My opinion goes that there is no time constraints involved.

[waheed]

Not that I'm even close to being a lawyer, but,

I think it'll be only somewhat legal to have a backup of the DVD for the life of the DVD...yep, for 2 days. Then like a purchased DVD, once you don't own the right (sell, give away....) to watch it you no longer have the right to have a backup.

I'll bet that'll cause a whole crowd of people rushing to the dumpster to dispose of the DVD-R backups they made of the 2-day kamikaze DVDs

Or having a whole crowd of people returning to the dumpsters to collect as many DVD-Rs as they can find :P

[waheed]

whut about rent to own stuff? lmao

1. if your talking about stuff that you own that you rent out to other people, for example if you own a rental store for dvds, yes, you can make a backup as long as you still own those dvds.

however, if you sell those dvds, then the backups should also be disposed of.

2. if you're talking about renting stuff to make copies for yourself, then thats illegal.

[alstatr]

I'm glad the movie companies care about our environment. Its sad that they will trade the environment just to stop all the piracy they claim is happening...

[waheed]

I'm glad the movie companies care about our environment. Its sad that they will trade the environment just to stop all the piracy they claim is happening...

Im glad that self-destruct DVDs will never appear here in the UK (as far as im aware)

[only_emo_kid]

whut about rent to own stuff? lmao

1. if your talking about stuff that you own that you rent out to other people, for example if you own a rental store for dvds, yes, you can make a backup as long as you still own those dvds.

however, if you sell those dvds, then the backups should also be disposed of.

2. if you're talking about renting stuff to make copies for yourself, then thats illegal.

i was talking about like H&r block where u can rent tvs and pay em off or furniture lmao

[waheed]

i was talking about like H&r block where u can rent tvs and pay em off or furniture lmao

thats quite simple. during the period of rental, you are not the actual owner as you have not paid the full amount. in such cases, the company whom you rent from still owns the product or whatever you rent. Once amount is paid in full, then you become the owner.

self-destruct dvds do not fall into this categary. you simply make a purchase and thats it.

[only_emo_kid]

wasn't sure, just wanted to throw that up

[neomaine]

waheed,

Yep, just my opinion on what the legalities would be. My guess is that the same people who rent and make backups of them to keep are the same ones who'll keep these backups as well. It'll all come down to cost as to which one they will use. If they can rent it for a week for $5 or buy it for two days for $6...

I'll never buy them myself because two days is not a long enough period for me to watch a movie. I can always wait to open the package until I'm good a ready, but, I like to watch a movie multiple times and DEFINITELY not within a two day period.

To me, this is a huge joke and doomed to failure. There'll be a few who are duped into buying but in the end it'll be just another bad idea.

This thread, though started on a serious note, is much more usefull for the off the cuff stuff like the comments about movie companies caring about the environments, hitting the bins for the tossed backups...