DVD Rebuilder

[wantedman]

I am using DVD Rebuilder for the first time. I am using version 64a (I think (Newest one)) the problem I am having is the dvd I backup is usually bigger then the original. I have searched the forums for this but I have gotten mixed answers. should I be changing something in CCE 2.66 or is there a simple setting I need to look at? I am trying to do a comparison on the Van Helsing movie. I have already done the DVD Shrink and the Intervideo DVD Copy 2.5b but I need the one for Rebuilder so I can compare them all in one shot. Then I can up my results to you all.

[jyn999]

There's a setting that can be inserted into the Rebuilder.INI file which can limit the size of the output files. Search the DVD Rebuilder forums on the DOOM9 site for more info.

[wantedman]

Argh.. well I will have to wait until I get home to look.. damn Websense..

[wantedman]

BTW is there another post regarding different quality that I can look at besides the doom9 big movie big fake test?

[pg55555]

wantedman

If I undestand correctly you have not made a successfull backup with RB yet. If so, your problem could be caused by a bad installation.

I would recommend to try rockas Rebuilder installer. It can be downloaded from here http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/

Other possible cause is if you preprocessed your source before RB (to get rid of FBI warnings, audio streams, etc). Please try with an un-processed source (only ripped)

[theKramer]

I have that problem myself too sometimes.

When I go to reauthor the DVD in DVD Author it says that the sources are too large for a DVD!!

But, what I have found is that if I author the DVD anyway, even though DVD Author says the output is too large, if I use DVD Shrink to back it up to a DVD it does actually fit on a DVD.

That is also with "No Compression" enabled in DVD Shrink.
So it seems to me, at least with DVD Author, that the authoring program is a little too sensitive in determining file size.

I just burned a DVD last night, with chapter motion menu animation, that DVD Author reported its size as being (4592/4438), i.e. almost 200 MB over the limit, that I was able to fit onto a 4.7GB DVD.
Although for that, DVD Shrink did compress the menu animations. But I dont really care about that. The main movie title however, was not compressed in any way by DVD Shrink.
Hope that my answer helps U out.
Peace

[wantedman]

Well thanks all for the responses. Looks like my install was incorrect. Thanks pg55555. Now I have been going thru all the #0006 errors with DVD-RB. I think I finally got that nailed down. the only other question IU have is with using RB-Opt(ions) when I click on an 'Extra' that I don't want I would like to be able to reduce the quality a little more. but the lowest option is 500 bitrate. I would like to bring that down to like 10 (because I don't even want to watch the extras so I don't even have to have them) so what i did is edited the *.ecl file and changed the 500 to a 10 manually. My question is that ok? also I have access to CCE 2.67 instead of Quenc which one is going to give me the BEST quality on the movie (I don't care about time)

[pg55555]

I do not know if you can encode at VBR 10. Try and see.

An option for getting rid of unwanted extras is to change them to still images with Shink or use VOBBlaqnker.

You can use them before Rebuilder, but generally it is recomended no to pre-process before RB.

So the recomendation will be to use them after RB.

But the problem is that if you want to recover the bitrate used by those unwanted extras to be used by the main movie.

To do it, you should oversize the RB output so, after reducing / eliminate the extras, you get the right size for a DVD5.

You can get an oversize RB output by the hidden TargetSectors setting in rebuilder.ini (see the "settings" sticky threat at the Rebuilder forum in doom9.org) or using RBOpt (unchecking the automatic bitrate feature and then increasing the bitrate of the movie). The advantage of this last method is that it gives you an indication of how much of the total video is taking any particular VOBID, so you can estimate how much you have to oversize the output)

You may want to use this oversize output method if you have large menus: RB does not encode menus, so it does not reduce their size. But Shrink does. So, you can calculate the compresibility of the menus with shrink, oversize RB output by that amount, an then use Shrink to reduce the backup to the DVD5 size by compressing only the menus (you can Shrink the menus before RB: as RB does not touch them, there would not be risks)