Upgrade your Ad-Aware.

[SLICK RICK]

I am not sure if this is old news here but I know that many other users including myself use Ad-Aware.

From their site:

Please upgrade to Ad-Aware SE.

We are now discontinuing reference file and product support for Ad-Aware 6 and urge users to upgrade their existing copies to the new Ad-Aware SE. We continued support of the older version of Ad-Aware to allow users time to upgrade while still enjoying the protection they have come to expect from our software.

http://www.lavasoft.de/

[Goober57]

I am not sure if this is old news here but I know that many other users including myself use Ad-Aware.

From their site:

Please upgrade to Ad-Aware SE.

We are now discontinuing reference file and product support for Ad-Aware 6 and urge users to upgrade their existing copies to the new Ad-Aware SE. We continued support of the older version of Ad-Aware to allow users time to upgrade while still enjoying the protection they have come to expect from our software.

http://www.lavasoft.de/

Yep, that's one of the programs that helped clean up the
mess in my computers in January.

I had coolwebsearch, werule, and other crap messing
things up.

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[ViRaL1]

SE's been out for a while. A couple of months at least. Finds a lot more than v6 did.

[SLICK RICK]

SE's been out for a while. A couple of months at least. Finds a lot more than v6 did.

It's dated Monday, Octobe 08,2004.

From their site:

Monday, October 08, 2004

Please upgrade to Ad-Aware SE.
We are now discontinuing reference file and product support for Ad-Aware 6 and urge users to upgrade their existing copies to the new Ad-Aware SE. We continued support of the older version of Ad-Aware to allow users time to upgrade while still enjoying the protection they have come to expect from our software.

[ViRaL1]

That's when they stopped supporting v6. There was some overlap between introducing SE and discontinuing v6.

[SLICK RICK]

That's when they stopped supporting v6. There was some overlap between introducing SE and discontinuing v6.

Got it.

[fritzi93]

Yes, couldn't update the other day, that's when I got SE. It found half a dozen spyware entries. Crap!

I suppose it is an improvement.

[SLICK RICK]

Yes, couldn't update the other day, that's when I got SE. It found half a dozen spyware entries. Crap!

I suppose it is an improvement.

Yea, so far SE has found alot of entries that V6 did not recognize.

[Capmaster]

I think this is newsworthy enough to move to Latest News. Hold onto something .....

[SLICK RICK]

I think this is newsworthy enough to move to Latest News. Hold onto something .....

Thanks Cap.

I would have posted it there first but I wasn't sure how old this news actually was.

[Capmaster]

I think this is newsworthy enough to move to Latest News. Hold onto something .....

Thanks Cap.

I would have posted it there first but I wasn't sure how old this news actually was.

I did a quick skim of the News threads before I moved this and didn't see any others, so it seems kosher.

[jimmalenko]

It DOES seem to be a lot better than 6.181. I like how it splits up into critical objects and negligible objects, so that you don't have to clear your cache of recently used files if you don't wish to.

[Gurm]

It also scans (and unhooks) DLL dependencies, which lets it find LOTS of new little nasties that hook themselves onto system DLL's and thus can't be removed by normal means.

I hate spyware.

[Garibaldi]

I hate spyware

Me too. I actually found a linux live-cd that scans your system for windows viruses too! So windows isn't running when you do this- it may help eliminate some harder to fix viruses.

[Sillyname]

It also scans (and unhooks) DLL dependencies, which lets it find LOTS of new little nasties that hook themselves onto system DLL's and thus can't be removed by normal means.

I hate spyware.

Those must be the ones that "rip the guts" out of programs like IE and whatnot when you try to erradicate them. Am I correct?

[Garibaldi]

Those must be the ones that "rip the guts" out of programs like IE and whatnot when you try to erradicate them. Am I correct?

I would guess so. I would use Firefox instead of IE to try and prevent it from happening in the first place.

[ghoster]

thanks for the news

[Poppa_Meth]

Between Spybot and Adaware I've done pretty good keeping clean. I still have people call me to fix their problems though and sometimes its gotten so bad that you can't fix it without and reformat/reinstall. Maybe this newer version of Adaware will help if it can deal with the windows gutting spywares.

[Nilfennasion]

Of course, the idea of ceasing the intermingling application files with system files, said to be one of the biggest causes of Windoze's inability to protect itself from spyware, has only just recently occurred to Mickeysoft. But then, not having every Microsoft application tie itself into the system files would be contrary to the marketing strategy they have followed since the 1980s.

[Garibaldi]

Of course, the idea of ceasing the intermingling application files with system files, said to be one of the biggest causes of Windoze's inability to protect itself from spyware, has only just recently occurred to Mickeysoft. But then, not having every Microsoft application tie itself into the system files would be contrary to the marketing strategy they have followed since the 1980s.

Winblow's does have that problem..plus look at IE and you can see the security problems. Do you use linux, and if so what distro?

[SLICK RICK]

thanks for the news

NP

[Nilfennasion]

I still use Windoze for the most part. But I do try to minimise security problems by using someone else's browser, email program, etc. The problem I have found so far with Linux is that it is very difficult to get the system working the way I want it. Installing things is often much more complicated than it needs to be, especially with all the permissions to access directories and so forth. The one question my experience with Linux so far leads me to ask is what is the point of having different directory access for different users, indeed even different user accounts, if there is only one person ever using the computer?

Although given the number of instances of spyware I seem to keep getting when I scan, I might just try to struggle around that anyway.

[Garibaldi]

I still use Windoze for the most part. But I do try to minimise security problems by using someone else's browser, email program, etc. The problem I have found so far with Linux is that it is very difficult to get the system working the way I want it. Installing things is often much more complicated than it needs to be, especially with all the permissions to access directories and so forth. The one question my experience with Linux so far leads me to ask is what is the point of having different directory access for different users, indeed even different user accounts, if there is only one person ever using the computer?

Although given the number of instances of spyware I seem to keep getting when I scan, I might just try to struggle around that anyway.

The reason for different directories even if there is only one user is because you don't want to run as root all the time. If you do that, you could easily delete or change something that would mess up your whole system and force a reinstall. As far as installing packages... I hear you- check this problem out:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1117327#1117327
dependencies are fun! I'm running Slackware. As far as installing the easiest way is apt-get, swaret, portage, ect. You can also install from source with:
./configure
make
make install

[Nilfennasion]

See, this is the one thing that is holding Linux in general back. The novice market that any OS needs to get in order to stay viable would be scared out of their wits by the package setup in Linux. Not to mention that doing things that can be accomplished in one step with Windoze often take numerous in Linux. For a techie, this might be perfectly okay, but for someone who either doesn't use computers much or has major memory/cognitive problems like I do, it's a nightmare. Which is why I have beat a retreat back to Windoze just for the time being. It makes me bitter that efforts like BeOS have been sunk.

I can appreciate that you don't want to run as root all the time. The problem I had was that when I ran as anyone else under several Unix flavours (I think Mandrake in particular, I had this problem with), I kept getting denied permission to install anything in the directories I am supposed to install them in, according to my understanding of procedure.

It makes me lament the fact that Corel stopped developing their Linux. With Wordperfect to run on it, theirs could have been the one to start a bigger migration.

[Garibaldi]

See, this is the one thing that is holding Linux in general back. The novice market that any OS needs to get in order to stay viable would be scared out of their wits by the package setup in Linux. Not to mention that doing things that can be accomplished in one step with Windoze often take numerous in Linux. For a techie, this might be perfectly okay, but for someone who either doesn't use computers much or has major memory/cognitive problems like I do, it's a nightmare. Which is why I have beat a retreat back to Windoze just for the time being. It makes me bitter that efforts like BeOS have been sunk. sad.gif

I can appreciate that you don't want to run as root all the time. The problem I had was that when I ran as anyone else under several Unix flavours (I think Mandrake in particular, I had this problem with), I kept getting denied permission to install anything in the directories I am supposed to install them in, according to my understanding of procedure.

It makes me lament the fact that Corel stopped developing their Linux. With Wordperfect to run on it, theirs could have been the one to start a bigger migration.

I agree- linux is a more hard core computer user's os. But there are distros (like suse) that make it very easy for a novice to start out. And basically any distro will work for them as long as the software that they want comes installed. With that type of user the main software is probably a text editor and internet access, both included by install in most distros. I really would like to try BeOS but I have an amd processor so I can only run the Max Edition, but I don't want to reformat. I wish there was a BeOS Max Live-cd!
As far as your permissions thing just type su at the prompt and then your password and then make install, this will will bring you up to admin priviliges and solve your problem.

[Nilfennasion]

Another thing that concerns me is that the games I have on my machine will not function under Linux without a program to emulate the Windoze environment for them, such as what exists in commercial versions of Lycoris. But that's secondary, I admit.

Given that I want to basically write novels, listen to MP3s, and watch/copy DVDs, what distro would you recommend? I'm suddenly itching to get back into fiddling with a Linux environment, but the one to go with is an issue. Although, truth be told, the main reason I am trying it is to regain some of the insight into what I am doing that progressive Windoze versions take away.

Thanks for that advice. I am going to copy it into a text file right now.

[Garibaldi]

Another thing that concerns me is that the games I have on my machine will not function under Linux without a program to emulate the Windoze environment for them, such as what exists in commercial versions of Lycoris. But that's secondary, I admit.

Given that I want to basically write novels, listen to MP3s, and watch/copy DVDs, what distro would you recommend? I'm suddenly itching to get back into fiddling with a Linux environment, but the one to go with is an issue. Although, truth be told, the main reason I am trying it is to regain some of the insight into what I am doing that progressive Windoze versions take away.

Thanks for that advice. I am going to copy it into a text file right now.

No Problem! I'm glad to help! As far as games there is a whole list of ones that run under the windows API emulator wine. I just started working with wine and I've already installed DVD Decryptor, DVD Shrink, Quicktime, and SSMM.
As far as what distro to go with, you have a lot of choices. What Windowmanager do you prefer? Personally I like KDE. I use a special flavor of Slackware called Topologilinux, which runs off an image file on your ntsf partition so you don't have to repartiton (its not an emulator, it actually boots). Slackware is the oldes distro and very stable. Its also a harder distro to get everything done it (so I've been told), but I haven't had too much of a problem. You said that all you would really need to do is writing (you can use KWord, preinstalled), Mp3s (I recommend JuK or Rhythmbox, you will have to install them), and for dvd backups you can use dvd:rip to copy to hd and then dvd shrink in wine to resize them. Slackware has a program called Swaret for keeping apps up to date and installing new ones. Debian is also a good choice because it has apt-get, which can help alot in installing software and keeping up to date. Both of these distros are very stable, which IMO makes them a good choice. You might want to check out the slackware live-cd:
www.slax.org
I'll get back to you tomorrow with more information.

[jimmalenko]

Ad-Aware ?

I don't see any conversations about Ad-Aware

Here I am ... I get the email notification, I come here, looking for conversation regarding ad-aware, and what do I get ? Linux. If I wanted to read about Linux I'd go into the Linux forum

[Nilfennasion]

Think of it as an extreme proposed solution to the Spyware problem, jim. Last I heard, Spyware support for most Linux flavours was quite low.

I think maybe we ought to continue this conversation in PMs, Garibaldi.

[jimmalenko]

Think of it as an extreme proposed solution to the Spyware problem, jim.

Good call.