Just curious cause in sefys guide it said encoding directly from the DVD drive will cause damage and when I encode a moive it is constanly reading the DVD. I just wanted to know will this damage my DVD burner.
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No it will not. It is very fast as opposed to using TMPGenc which would take several hours. But if you are really worried about your DVD burner you can just rip it without shrinking it and then encode it later. That's what I do most of the time.
Anthony"The man who can make up his mind when proofs are presented to him is looked upon as a bigot, and the man who ignores proofs and the search for truth is looked upon as broad-minded and tolerant."
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i agree with the above post. damage to your drive ia load of horse twottle
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it won't hurt your drive, but it'll cause you to get pimples
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the fact that you need dvd-rom to rip or burn the dvd is a BIG BS....i always use my burner to encode directly, and no problems. ripping on hd, then encoding is a waste of time.....
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You're not clear on exactly what he means.
1) when using deep analysis in DVD Shrink it does a two pass analysis to get better quality which means it putting twice the amount of work on the DVD drive.
2) Using your burner to rip works fine but it once again puts more wear on the burner since you are using it to do everything.
What it comes down to is ripping to the Hard drive with DVD Decrypter first saves you the double wear from deep analysis and using a DVD-ROM drive to rip also reduces wear on the burner. A normal DVD-ROM drive is usually cheaper to replace than a burner is. Also some burner have locked rip speeds and you can rip faster on most DVD-ROM drives without installing hacked firmware. -
I agree with Poppa_meth.
I bought a burner (NEC) and a ripper (LITE-ON) and I find the combination of drives to be outstanding.
When I am backing up 2 or more discs in a row I find that by sharing the work between the two drives it really saves on wear and tear. While my burner is "resting" from the last burn, my ripper is working hard at preparing the next disc and vice-versa.
Also, and this is most important, My 30 dollar lite-on rips faster then my 110 dollar burner.
If I was backing up two DVD-9's in a row that had to be ripped, encoded, and then burnt (DVDDecrypter to CloneDVD2 to Nero) we are talking about an hour or more of pure DVD drive work. I would rather break this up between two drives.
You dont NEED two drives but why push a hardware device to its operating limit when you can throw down 30 bucks or less and backup discs quicker with less heat and stress.
Just My Opinion
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I also use 2 DVD drives. But I use Intervideo DVD program. Takes about 40 min. 20 to rip and 20 to burn. Like they said. It saves wear and tear on your DVD burner to buy a DVD drive for $30.00.
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I Stand by what I said, I don't know how many rips either one here does, but I tell you from my own personal experience that I have killed 2 DVD drives to write the guide during the course of the 4 years i've been writing it.
Like so many others here (and you can find my older posts) I also believed it will not damage the drive. but you are forgeting, when you play a movie for example, it just plays it and stops spinning till you access it again, when you do a rip, it goes for lets say 10 to 40min ?
But when you encode directly from the drive, you are putting hours of strain over it, which overheats the engine and the drive eventually becomes slower and slower and then starts having problems reading media and it dies, and if you don't believe me, you will soon find out yourself.
PS: to write the guide I ripped the same movie on the same drive, each time for a different program and different method, there has been atleast 17 kind of full updates to the guide, multiply that by all methods and all of the ripping tools and you'll have just the amount of rips I did for the guide, which doesn't include doing my own stuff regardless of the guide.
If you want to kill your DVD Writer, don't say I didn't warn you, personaly, I bought a DVD/CDRW combo for reading and a DVD Writer for writing but not ripping. You do things at your own responsibility, who ever said it's BS is a liar.Email me for faster replies!
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I concur with Sefy.
You "newbies" () don't remember the old days of DVD ripping. With DVDShrink, you optimally should be using both deep analysis and adaptive error correction. That is in essence TWO passes with the second pass being relatively slow. Although it is probably less of a problem compared to the old FlaskMPEG + CSS days (where conversion to VCD could take anywhere from 10-20 hours), the constant spinning of your drive will reduce its lifespan.
Optical drives are not designed to be used in this manner for hours on end, especially if they are continually being spun up and down.
I would recommend that you rip your DVD first with a tool like DVD Decrypter and then use DVDShrink. And like Sefy, I use my DVD writer just for writing. I have a separate DVD-ROM drive for ripping.
Regards.Michael Tam
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Wear and tear will play a part due to the work your burner has to do. I concur with a few posters above - buy a liteon DVD-ROM and use it with DVDDecrypter or smartripper to rip to your HD. You are only using a ROM which is cheap to replace, and generally will be able to generate much quicker rip speeds than your burner. Then you load the files into DVDShrink off your Hard Drive, which speeds up the whole DVDShrink experience anyway because the data transfer rates from your hard drive are much quicker than from your optical drives. Only use your burner to burn. This is only my experience, but I think you'll find that this is both an excellent method of reducing wear and tear and also enhances the speed of the DVD Backup process.
If in doubt, Google it.
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