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  1. Hey,
    A year ago premiere was the best editing software. I was wondering if it still is. If so is there a place that teaches an online course?
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  2. A year ago many would have said that Vegas is better. Today many would say the same. For the $500-600 dollar range, it is mainly Premiere and Vegas, although some like Ulead's Mediastudio. I use premiere and love it, but it is really a matter of what feels best for you.
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    I think so.

    It's just a bit harder to learn at first. But with sites like www.wrigleyvideo.com available, it's not as painful as it once was.

    I dare say many people prefer Vegas and MSP and others simply because they're easier to learn. But Vegas is pretty good too.
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  4. I got both demos before making up my mind (as well you should do when plunking down $500+) My final decision was Vegas. Simply put, Vegas does more with what you get (at least without 100+ hours on the learning curve). More of just about everything. The only way Premier competes is with motion graphics is with After Effects.

    My only real gripe is that Premier has more plug-ins...Vegas is the underdog with that 'red-headed step child' view by many professional editors..they just snub up their noses in most cases. Case in point, you ever try to get an editing job at one of the big stations (the local FOX affiliate did in my area a couple months ago) To say the least, they didn't put any stock in Vegas; saying, applicants must be familiar with all Adobe products including Photoshop, Premier, and After Effects.
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    Another good point is once you learn Premiere, you can pretty much learn any NLE. I just used the newest version of FCP last week for the first time, no problems, never confused. I have Premiere knowledge to thank.
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    Premiere was good but to too many Lock Ups & crashes. Vegas is more stable & has a easy learning curve. NO Doubt, The Best Bang for the Bucks!!!! VEGAS
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    Originally Posted by 2002Ecoast
    Hey,
    A year ago premiere was the best editing software. I was wondering if it still is. If so is there a place that teaches an online course?
    at no time was premiere the "best" ... it was the most popular though ...

    in studios though -- at least for film -- it would be rarely seen .. avid was everywhere (as it still is along with FCP now) ..Vegas though is wonderful application that is found all over at this point -- greatly recommended ..
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    Which is better? I don't know. I use MSP and haven't found anything it won't do that I have thought of yet.


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    NO Doubt, The Best Bang for the Bucks!!!! VEGAS

    I'll disagree with that though, you can get Ulead's MSP on sale for around $290. You can get a complete package with Quartet for about $550 which includes MSP, DVD Workshop 2, Photimpact, and Cool 3-D. All integrate together nicely. If purchased seperately there about $700 to $800.
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  9. Vegas has my vote....!

    Not as pretty as Premiere, but it is ROCK SOLID when it comes to performance. I've only had one crash in the 2 yrs I've been using Vegas. I can't count how many I've had with Premiere.

    The really nice thing I like about Vegas is that you can insert Acid Pro 4 loops right into the audio time line. If you have the "Cinematic Orchestra" loops disc, you've basically have an entire orchestra at your finger tips. Very nice for you Indie film makers.

    You can't beat the Vegas, Acid Pro 4, & Sound Forge 7 combo. Throw in Photoshop & you can do anything.

    Vegas just needs a few more plug-ins & a face lift.

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  10. I like Vegas, but I can't say I ever gave Premiere a fair shake; I do as much multitrack audio as video, so Vegas was an obvious choice. Plus, I compared them before Premiere had realtime FX & transitions.

    As for plugs, don't the Boris stuff & After Effects both work with Vegas now? Also AlumDV.
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  11. I found Premiere to be a resource hog... constant freezing and locking on my Athlon XP 2200, 512 MB RAM system. Vegas has had no such problems, very stable. You don't have your system profile loaded, but if you have equal or less than I, then definately go Vegas.
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    Premiere's interface seems a little more intuitive for someone getting started. I am working with titles in my productions (often over 50 in a 30 min piece) and Premiere hands down has a better titling function. Not nearly the creative freedom in Vegas for this from what I can determine for titles. As far as stability, Vegas seems much more stable and less prone to crashing. I have auto save set at 5 min in Premiere. Also, and not to be underrated, but Premiere has much more doc out there as well as training labs available. I'd be surprised if there were more than a few books written specifically for Vegas. Haven't tried Avid or FCP, but have read good things about each. Thought FCP was Mac only, is this still the case?
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    FCP is Mac only
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  14. I have them both and use Pro for more intense projects (along with Encore, Photoshop and AE). I use Vegas for quick projects. I really have no preference. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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  15. I'm a Premiere fan, i think it's great for everything i need it for, very flexable. I'n never had the stability issues others are talking about and I only run an Athlon XP 1700+ with 768 MB of RAM.

    True, it's a little hard to learn, but once u learn the optiona are limitless. But i all fairness I've neved users Vegas...

    As far as the price goes, i was able to find a full version of Premier 6.5 at circuit city for $79.99 a few weeks ago; i came bundeled with a Pyro Firewire card and some other DVD burning software. Plus i can upgrade it to Premiere Pro 1.5 for another $199.99. Thats the the latest version of Premiere for a under $300...
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    I would have said, Premiere Pro (or 6.5) until I upgraded to XP SP2. Since then big problems and total lack of action, for many users with the same problems.

    Vegas, rock solid, no problems SP2 wise.

    I would now say Vegas 4 or 5 wiothout a doubt.
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    I work with Pinnacle Liquid Edition, and it's great. Especially the Clip-Managment ist very good. I was also working with Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7, which is also a good program, but Edition is more flexible and user orientated. For Semi-Pros MSP will be the best choice.
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