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    I have 5 computer network

    PC 1 - Win2000
    PC 2 - Win98
    PC 3 - Win98
    PC 4 - Win2000
    PC 5 - Win2000

    PC 5 always crashes and I have to reload windows. I put a partition on this computer to save my files. This computer can't stay up for 2 weeks befor it crashes.

    I am running a linksys router uplinked to a hub.

    The error when it crashes is always on the c drive. c/WINNT/

    Then I can't restart, CRASH

    All my programs are loaded in the c/program files/
    All the rest of the PC's have the programs loaded in c/program files and they never crash. PC 4 runs all the same programs as PC 5 and it never crashes.

    I have reloaded Windows 4 times, yesterday took my hard drive my burner and my dvdrom and put it together on a whole new mother board and chip, practically a new computer, it still crashed

    Should I load all my programs on the d drive partition, will this make the operating system more stable??

    What is causing this PC to CRASH
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    Win 2000 is pretty stable. What about your HD? Or memory if you haven't swapped that. Not much else left.

    Random crashes are generally not hardware such as CD or DVD.
    Don't really see that the boot partition would matter.
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    I swapped the memory. I used the same HD, DVDrom and burner.

    Could these be the problem??
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    HDs usually give warnings such as data corrupted, lost files, etc. Is S.M.A.R.T. enabled on this drive?

    It's easy enough to remove the DVD burner and the DVD ROM and test. If you have a spare HD you could substitute for the one you are using. HD's usually behave differently when failing, but I would swap it out and try again.

    Similar problems of crashes I have had in the past were; Corrupted files, Memory, CPU, Motherboard, Cabling, Power supply related, in that order of occurrences. It seems you have eliminated the common causes.
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    If I changed my HD, would I have success?
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    Only way of knowing is to replace each component one by one and see if it still crashes. Sounds like you have been doing this though! Swap the part with same from another stable PC and wait for the result. Repeat for each part. PCs are only about 6-7 parts, so shouldn't take too long. I would start with RAM, the HD, the M/B, then anything else.
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    Could be a problem on the motherboard, like with the memory controller, or the memory bus.

    Or .....
    try swapping in a different power supply. Power glitches or undervoltages are notorious for causing constant crashes
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    Or .....
    try swapping in a different power supply. Power glitches or undervoltages are notorious for causing constant crashes
    Power supply, do you mean the power supply at the back of the computer, or the place where I plug it in? this computer is plugged in on a power bar that is being shared by other computers speakers etc. Could this cause a power shortage??

    I already replace the whole PC Motherboard, chip power supply at the back etc. I only took my DVDrom ,Burner and HD
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    Originally Posted by BCAESE
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    try swapping in a different power supply. Power glitches or undervoltages are notorious for causing constant crashes
    Power supply, do you mean the power supply at the back of the computer, or the place where I plug it in? this computer is plugged in on a power bar that is being shared by other computers speakers etc. Could this cause a power shortage??

    I already replace the whole PC Motherboard, chip power supply at the back etc. I only took my DVDrom ,Burner and HD
    I don't know what you mean by "chip power supply". I was talking about the power supply inside the case at the back, with the fan. It's unlikely it's an AC voltage issue on the power strip.

    If you mean that supply when you say "chip power supply" then it sounds like you've already tried a different one.

    I had mentioned it because I've seen bad power supplies do some funky things to PCs, and PS'es aren't that expensive for a good one, like an Antec.
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    I changed the whole power supply when I changed the motherboard and chip.

    If I get a new HD should this solve the problem?
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    Originally Posted by BCAESE
    I changed the whole power supply when I changed the motherboard and chip.

    If I get a new HD should this solve the problem?
    I would hope so since it sounds like everything else has been swapped out already
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  12. What you could do as a temporary solution or even as a permentant solution would be to download knoppix, a live-cd linux distro. www.knoppix.net It will allow you to run the whole os off a cd, maybe so you could try to fix your hdd. Since its free you can also install it to the hd and see if it keeps crashing. That way you can narrow down the possiblities by seeing if its a hd related problem. Hope this helps.
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    I hate to tell you to try a new harddrive, but it seems you've exhausted all the normal possibilities. Unless your operating system CD is corrupted, it may be the last thing to try. (I guess you can always use another HD, as long as you can afford it) Keep us posted on your progress.
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    2k crashing is not normal. Unless there is a specific piece of software (doesn't sound like it in this case) OR a specific driver (remember drivers are software too) then its either Memory or Hard drive. 9 times out of 10.

    Based on whats been said or tried it does sound like hard drive, but as always you can never tell until you replace the part and see if it fixes it. I suggest buying from someplaces local with a good return policy incase it doesn't fix it.
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    2K is rock solid. This is a hardware issue, unquestionably.
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