Possible re-author question...

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello all,

Not sure which board this should be on so I posted here.

Need some information here. I have read the guide(s) for Dvd Shrink in regards to re-authoring, but I am unsure if that is the route I should be going.

Here is the situation. I bought a copy of Metallica: Cunning Stunts. Now, the first DVD is so jam packed that even at Level 9 compression and only one AC3 – 2 channel audio, it still would not fit on one disk. I'm still missing a few hundred meg to make the indicator bar go from red to grey. Besides, I don't want to use level 9 compression anyway. I usually don't go higher than 6 and would also like to have the DTS 6 channel audio. However, the 2nd Dvd not compressed at all, is about a half a dvd.

What I would like to do is “re-author” them to one big file, split it into two files evenly again and then if need be, shrink them accordingly, to make them fit evenly onto 2 disks. Does that make any sense? Or am I missing part of the puzzle and over analysing this? Is there an easier way to do what I want?

Let me know when you get a minute. As usual muchly appreciated

LG

[yoda313]

Hello,

If you have the harddrive space and processing power you could reencode it using a bitrate calculator found here:

https://www.videohelp.com/tools

Reencode the video to a lower bitrate - say 3500 - to squeeze more video onto the disc. You could use programs like tmpgenc to do this. Check out the guides found here:

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdbackup

Kevin

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello,

If you have the harddrive space and processing power you could reencode it using a bitrate calculator found here:

https://www.videohelp.com/tools

Reencode the video to a lower bitrate - say 3500 - to squeeze more video onto the disc. You could use programs like tmpgenc to do this. Check out the guides found here:

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdbackup

Kevin

Define processing power. Sadly, I only have a P3-733 with 384ram. I do have 160gig of HD space :P Talk about mis-matching.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Processing power - cpu power. Reencoding time will take awhile on a p3. I have an amd 850 it takes awhile. But reencoding will let you fit more on one disc.

Kevin

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello,

Processing power - cpu power. Reencoding time will take awhile on a p3. I have an amd 850 it takes awhile. But reencoding will let you fit more on one disc.

Kevin

I should have put "quotation" marks around power. I was being sarcastic. My bad.

Wont reencoding at a lower bitrate take away quality though? I would like to keep the quality as much to the original as possible. Only because its a live concert. The lighting is quite "sharp" and I fear that lowering the bitrate might dull it a little.

Is this correct?

[yoda313]

Hello,

If your that concerned about quality why not split them to two discs???

Kevin

EDIT - You could also do a test of one video clip at a video bitrate of 3500 (or a little lower) and see how it looks to you. If the quality is acceptable than you can take the time to do the whole disc.

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello,

If your that concerned about quality why not split them to two discs???

Kevin

Uhhhmmmm .. thats what I want to do. The whole point was that the 2nd dvd is almost blank. So I wanted to combine the two files, then split them evenly.

Doing it your way, I would have two full disks, and then a 3rd almost empty. Why not try and get two full ones. It just seems silly to have a 3rd or 2nd disk be 3/4 empty. Seems like a waste.

Would that not be a better solution? I dont know. Im just getting all my options.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Oh, sorry. But anyway just try reencoding a small clip to see if the quality is good. Then you could do all of the disc.

Kevin

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello,

Oh, sorry. But anyway just try reencoding a small clip to see if the quality is good. Then you could do all of the disc.

Kevin

I will definately try that. Thanks for the suggestion. But to answer my original question, is the method I wanted to use with Reauthoring a good one? Or am I going about it the wrong way?

[yoda313]

Hello,

Well the only way I could think would be to use dvd decryper and rip the vobs by chapter. Then you could load them into tmpgenc dvd author and make the disc. Then use dvdshrink to compress it down to 4.37gb to fit on a dvdr. That might do it for you.

Kevin

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Hello,

Well the only way I could think would be to use dvd decryper and rip the vobs by chapter. Then you could load them into tmpgenc dvd author and make the disc. Then use dvdshrink to compress it down to 4.37gb to fit on a dvdr. That might do it for you.

Kevin

Riiiiight. So this will be difficult then lol. Lovely. I will give both options a go.

Thanks a ton

[jimmalenko]

Firstly, Levels were fom way back in DVDShrink 2.3, weren't they ? I'd update your version of DVDShrink because the transcoding algorithms are much, much better now.

What I did with Cunning Stunts was back up each disc, then I created a custom disc with just the concert on it (it really pissed me off having to change discs for the last 5 songs). All you need to is rip just the concert part of each disc to separate directories (I would use either DVDDecrypter or Smartripper). If you use stream processing you can remove all audio except the DTS (make sure you map it to 0X80 though). Then you use VOBEdit to join the VOBs together (you will have to rename them into sequence). Finally, use IFOEdit to create new IFOs and BUPs and run the output through DVDShrink to fit on one DVDR. You end up with one disc that is just the concert in its entirety.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Just make sure to use a rewritable first. A dts only disc is OFF SPEC. I think most dvd players will play it (my old sony does). But use a rewritable to avoid a coaster. And remember, dts only won't play on regular tvs - receiver only - and only properly equipped pcs

Kevin

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Firstly, Levels were fom way back in DVDShrink 2.3, weren't they ? I'd update your version of DVDShrink because the transcoding algorithms are much, much better now.

What I did with Cunning Stunts was back up each disc, then I created a custom disc with just the concert on it (it really pissed me off having to change discs for the last 5 songs). All you need to is rip just the concert part of each disc to separate directories (I would use either DVDDecrypter or Smartripper). If you use stream processing you can remove all audio except the DTS (make sure you map it to 0X80 though). Then you use VOBEdit to join the VOBs together (you will have to rename them into sequence). Finally, use IFOEdit to create new IFOs and BUPs and run the output through DVDShrink to fit on one DVDR. You end up with one disc that is just the concert in its entirety.

Ok, Im at work and dont have the disks in front of me but how do you know what is a concert files and what isnt?

Boy oh boy, something tells me I am in trouble with this lol. Im definately going to give it a try but wow, this may be beyond me. I know this may be a lot to ask, but can you post the links to the exact guides I would need to use to do all this? I just went into the tools section for Decryptor and there are like 20 guides there. Im pretty unsure of which one to use. And I have never used VOBEdit and IFOEdit before. Would you, or anyone else reading this, have an issue with doing that for me? If not, I will read through all the guides until I find out what I need.

Thanks a ton

LG

[jimmalenko]

If you like my idea, I'm quite happy to do a guide with pics of every stage (I'll actually create the disc again). This should be a piece of piss to follow.

It's 2am and I have to work tomorrow, but I can whip something up at some stage tomorrow and upload it to my website. I'll PM you when I'm done if you like.

[Lucifers_Ghost]

If you like my idea, I'm quite happy to do a guide with pics of every stage (I'll actually create the disc again). This should be a piece of piss to follow.

It's 2am and I have to work tomorrow, but I can whip something up at some stage tomorrow and upload it to my website. I'll PM you when I'm done if you like.

Wow, sure. That sounds great. I really really appreciate that man. Thats way more than I was expecting.

Thanks in advance.