Tv Shows Capture to DVD

[sherman]

Hi guys

I have been succesfully making XVCD 's out of Tv shows for a couple of years now.

Now I want to make them into DVD's now.

I thought that using full D1 (720 X 480) was waistful so I decided to try 352 X 480 and then I could fit4 or 5 1 hour epsodes on 1 DVD.

My problem is that the resulting Video has suttering in high motion seans.

I am encoding with TMPGnc 2.5

Can anybody out there who is also making TV epsodes on DVD help me.

Sherman

[sacajaweeda]

Interlaced or progressive? Match the source? FWIW, NTSC is kinda jerky to begin with...

[sherman]

They are captures from NTSC TV so they are interlaced. I am encoding to 480 height so the MPEG will also be interlaced i guess. I was thinking it was a field order problem. I was wondering if anybody was using TMPGnc to encode TV captures to DVD compliant MPEG 2 if they would share thier encoding settings with me.

Sherman

[sacajaweeda]

Okay, my bad. I foolishly assumed you've already eliminated a field order issue being a possibility. Try some short sample clips both ways and that will answer that riddle.

[sherman]

Okay, my bad. I foolishly assumed you've already eliminated a field order issue being a possibility. Try some short sample clips both ways and that will answer that riddle.

I tried some short clips either way and the result is the same. Both clips are a little bit jittery in motion scenes. I notice it more during Scene changes.

Sherman

[Tommyknocker]

Okay, my bad. I foolishly assumed you've already eliminated a field order issue being a possibility. Try some short sample clips both ways and that will answer that riddle.

I tried some short clips either way and the result is the same. Both clips are a little bit jittery in motion scenes. I notice it more during Scene changes.

Sherman

Try adjusting the bit rate as well.

[sherman]

Since I was encoding to 352X480 I tried around standard SVCD bit rate.
2 pass VBR Ave 2000, Peak 3000 Min 1000.

At this resolution I noticed a little bit of blockiness so I hope you mean I should increase the bit rate and if so how high. I wouldn't want to decrease it


Sherman

[Garibaldi]

It sounds like the video bitrate to me. What program did you use to capture the video? I used to use a program called moviestar 5. I was wondering why all my dvd videos were shakey, especially during scene trasitions. Turns out the encoder for moviestar was no good, and the video bitrate was too high, so the dvd player couldn't read it fast enough to process that high a bitrate and therefore lowering the bitrate fixed the shakeyness. It sounds like you already tried adjusting the bitrate, 3000 to 1000 VBR? I would recommend a bitrate between 5.5 mb/s (5500 in TMPGENC) to 3.5 mb/s (3500). Use a constant bitrate for this (CBR). I have even gone as low as 1.8 mb/s (1800) with my vhs tape collection because the original video quality isn't that great anyway. If you don't want to rerender to get your bitrate down, use dvd patcher.

[sherman]

Garibaldi I think you have something there I tried two clips at CBR 4000 with each one a different field order.

One played back perfectly and the other still had the stuttering so that of course is the field order problem that Tommyknocker was talking about.

I think mayby my DVD Player (Magnsonic) does not like the 2 pass VBR clips.

CBR 4000 gives to big a file size. I am trying to fit 4 42:30 TV episodes (170 minutes) per DVD. So I am going to try some lower bit rates using CBR.

Thannks guys

[Garibaldi]

CBR 4000 gives to big a file size. I am trying to fit 4 42:30 TV episodes (170 minutes) per DVD. So I am going to try some lower bit rates using CBR.

Sherman, I am able to fit 6 43 minute episodes on a disk with the settings of CBR and bitrate at 1800. The quality is still very good and besides the original tapes aren't that good so setting the bitrate too high doesn't do anything for the quality anyway. I'm glad you figured out the shakey problem. I would recommend between 3000 to 2000 CBR for your 4 43 minute episodes. Glad to help.

[fmctm1sw]

Hi guys

I have been succesfully making XVCD 's out of Tv shows for a couple of years now.

Now I want to make them into DVD's now.

I thought that using full D1 (720 X 480) was waistful so I decided to try 352 X 480 and then I could fit4 or 5 1 hour epsodes on 1 DVD.

My problem is that the resulting Video has suttering in high motion seans.

I am encoding with TMPGnc 2.5

Can anybody out there who is also making TV epsodes on DVD help me.

Sherman

Are your XVCDs at 352x240? If so, don't even bother going to 720x480 or 352x480. 352x240 MPEG-1 is DVD compliant (NTSC). Demux the audio and convert the sample rate to 48khz. Author and you're done. I've done this with all my VCDs I made before I got my burner...

[sherman]

I am not converting my existing XVCD collection. Since I now have a DVD burner I am just going to start making DVDs of my favourite TV show (Star Trek Enterpise).

My XVCD's are at 480 X 480 with varing bit rates depending on how much I had wanted to fit on a CDR. From day one I had trouble making SVCD's so since my first DVD player (APEX AD600) could play anything I could throw at it I got lazzy and used MPEG 1 at 480X480 which played back with good quality on my Apex Also I was using an old version of TMPGnc which had the Trial period expired so I never got around to playing with MPEG 2 again.

But now since I'm moving up to DVD I had to tackle MPEG 2 again. I think I now have my problems solved now. I just need to make some test burnes to determine how 352X480 DVD's will look and how low I can go with the bit rates. As I said my target is to fit 4 TV epsodes of Enterprise per DVD.

Sherman