Underworld crappy mexican dvd

[mirwais]

hi, I live in Mexico, I bought Inframundo (Underworld) region 4 a week ago, it's one of those dvds different from their original version, for example, crappy menus, etc, I mean the disc is only 3.76Gb and has 3 audio tracks, imagine the video quality, not only is it bad, but the aspect ratio is sooo wrong, I don't know what the aspect ratio for this movie is but they got it wrong on this dvd for latin america, it looks horrible, here's the actual screencap (i removed the black lines) from the orginal dvd (it's not a bootleg):

And here's the same pic as it should have been (I resized it on Paint shop pro):

See what I mean, how can they make such a crappy dvd, I'm sure the US version is normal, but what I wanna know is if there is a way I can fix it, like copy the dvd with a program that can automatically resize the aspect ratio, i don't wanna use TMPGenc or other tool, I wanna keep everything like the original with the audio and everythin, just change the damn aspect ratio! can that be done?????
PS: I'm so piseed I haven't even seen the freaking movie, I mean, how can you? looking like that!

[mirwais]

I forgot to tell that it's not my dvd player, or that my tv is not set properly, it happens on my dvd player, on my pc, and on my ibook, so, it is the dvd.

[johns0]

What you have bought is a bootleg and is considered warez,you can buy the proper dvd online.

[mirwais]

it is not a bootleg, I bought it from a legitimate store, it's called sanbors, very famous in mexico, so, it's not a bootleg, I can assure you that.

[johns0]

I would go back to the store then and demand a proper dvd cause i have never seen a poorly put together dvd and sold as commercial.Update,i just checked and you have bought a australian pal dvd if its region 4,thats why the picture is stretched.Get your money back.

[hech54]

Bootleg DVD's can be bought and sold like any other DVD...and the retailers have NO idea.
I bought this DVD and Mediamarkt in Germany. The DVD originated in Argentina. As you can see below it is a pressed DVD called "DVD Volume". It is a concert DVD with over 47 minutes of concert PLUS a menu in 3 languages, a photo gallery AND a discography...all this just over 2gigs? This was once a bootleg VCD....redone now into a bootleg DVD....plain and simple.


Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6
Media code/Manufacturer ID N/A Pressed DVD
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name DVDVolume
Application id
Implementation id DVD Producer 1.0
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 6/ 7/2003 11:57:10
Format Capacity 2.05GB(2.21GB)
Book Type DVD-ROM
Media Type DVD-ROM
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 10706Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1




There are also a whole slew of Russian made bootleg DVD's and CD's floating around Europe as well.

[Nilfennasion]

Just because it is PAL doesn't explain that stretching. If it was in PAL, it would have the same shape, but it would fit more pixels into said shape, if that is quantifiable. What this appears to be is a transfer that has been set at the wrong aspect ratio. Which may be a bad legitimate distributor, or a bootleg, it's one or the other.

[johns0]

Just because it is PAL doesn't explain that stretching.

Sure it does,i have a dvd player that plays pal dvd stretched,doesnt resize anamorphic pal,but you could be right also,my pal play fine in my computer dvdr.

[Nilfennasion]

PAL is literally designed so that the image will be the same size (ie 16 units wide by 9 units high), but have more dots inside the space between the two. It has nothing to do with the physical dimensions of the picture. They just refer to the two standards as 720x480 and 720x576 because that is what the source files on the disc are.

A picture WILL NOT appear elongated simply because it is PAL.

[johns0]

If the picture is anamorphic and is 720 x576 and the player doesnt see it as anamorphic then it will play in full screen instead of 720x432(0,72,0,72) borders.

[Nilfennasion]

Anamorphic pictures that haven't been adjusted for are 34% (roughly) taller, even when the redundant areas of the image are removed. Those two screen caps do not look like a 34% difference to me.

Of course, it would help us a lot if our enquirer would provide untouched, unmodified screen caps.

[hech54]

.....the disc is only 3.76Gb and has 3 audio tracks....

Same as mine shown above....it's a bootleg....face it.
Amazon.com has it listed as a two disc set?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001WTUH6/qid=1090843923/sr=8-1/ref=pd_...s=dvd&n=507846

And it's also a Sony DVD
http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/underworld/

[Nilfennasion]

Sony have occasionally release discs with 3.76 gb movie files which contain three audio tracks, but their running time is usually substantially less than that of Underworld. The PAL version of Underworld happens to be one of the few Sony discs I have had to transcode after omitting all of the unnecessary soundtracks, so this is sounding more and more like a bootleg.

[RottenFoxBreath]

yeh i agree there,
that sounds strangely familiar to what i was left with when i ripped menus,audio tracks,and features from mine..still looked bloody good though.
roughly 3 1/2gigs worth.

one more thing....couldnt you just select "letterbox or pan/scan on the dvd player to get it looking ok.

i have a couple of animorphic dvds that play stretched,and have to 4:3 them.

[Nilfennasion]

Again, the shape of the first screen cap is not the right one. If the first cap was simply anamorphic distortion, or an anamorphic image not being adjusted for, to use wordier terms, it would be 397.98 pixels high, not 369.

Which leaves two possibilities. Either our poster here did something wrong when he cut the redundant area from the screen cap, or he is too dense to realise he has a copy made by people who don't give a damn about quality control. I know which one my money's on.

[CaseyComb]

A picture WILL NOT appear elongated simply because it is PAL

Uhh...yes it will. Not all DVD players will play PAL format properly. I know because I've owned a few of them. So yes on older models the the picture will appear "elogated"

Nilfennasion, you are without a doubt the biggest troll on these boards. A Know-it-all that knows very little.

I remember guys like you would play make believe D & D in the woods by my house ...me and my friends used to have fun shooting you guys with BB guns. Those were the days...ahhh I miss them so.

[mirwais]

Ok, it is not PAL, region 4 is for Mexico and other countrys but still NSTC, Europe is 2 I think, anyway the disc is regio 4 NTSC, original, not a bootleg, I even went to blockbuster and told the guy to put it on the dvd player so he can see it looks bad (even though i didn't even rent it), but it looked good to him :S, he doen't know anything, but it looked the same, same aspect ratio.
It a crappy transfer, they usually sell diferent dvds from the usa, with no extras and crappy looking menus, I rented 28 days later like 6 months ago at blockbuster, and it said it had deleted scenes, and an alternate ending, but the disc didn;t have any of that, its the distributors that aren't doing their job well.
Anyway, here's the original image from the dvd, I didn't cut the black lines in this one.

[Nilfennasion]

Okay, so I am a troll because I know that "it's PAL" is not a satisfactory explanation for vertical elongation? Can we say "feeling threatened", children?

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/HowlingIII.html

As you can see from this review (one of hundreds I have written), "it's PAL" is taking the easy way out. This kind of vertical elongation is also not a dead giveaway of piracy, either. This particular disc, which is considered one of the worst in Australia, is fully legit. A quote:

The transfer is presented with vertical stretching (ie stretched upwards to fit into the 4:3 ratio of 1987-generation television screens), but enabling the 16x9 mode on my television restored the correct 1.85:1 proportioning to the image. This leaves one of two possibilities regarding the transfer's lack of 16x9 Enhancement: either Avenue One properly sourced the transfer from widescreen material and forgot to add the 16x9 flag, or they transferred the film to VHS with this vertical stretching and figured that what was good enough for the Very Hazy System is good enough for DVD. Given the quality of the transfer, even when this error is forgotten, the latter explanation seems a lot more likely.

Now that you know how seriously you've underestimated how much I know, an apology wouldn't go astray.

A few things, mirwais: Region 4 also consists of two PAL territories (Australia and New Zealand). These two PAL territories often get recycled transfers from the Region 4 NTSC territories courtesy of Warners. In both cases, it is rare for a transfer in either country from a major distributor such as Columbia Tristar (the owners of Underworld) to have this much disparity. If Col-Tri release a reference-quality transfer in Australia, it's a 1:1 bet that they will release something similar in NTSC countries. If they did release a disc like that in any part of the Americas, a recall would follow.

There is one way in which you can convince people here this isn't a bootleg. Photos of the cover art and the disc label. Otherwise, people aren't going to believe it isn't. That's just the way it is, and I am starting to wonder how many more times we're going to explain the reason.

[ROBERT BLACK]

mirwais wrote:
.....the disc is only 3.76Gb and has 3 audio tracks....



Same as mine shown above....it's a bootleg....face it.
Amazon.com has it listed as a two disc set?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... p;n=507846

And it's also a Sony DVD
http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/underworld/

This is a clearcut BOOTLEG. From what he describes I've come accross a few of the same badly authored and modified versions of films on DVD in my city's Chinatown. The packaging is so professional on some a few copies even made it to HMV.(large retailer)[/code]

[mirwais]

It's not a bootleg, (it it was a bootleg, I wouldn't mind telling, I have a bootleg Shrek 2 dvd, I think is the one that's gonna be realesed but it looks cool, so).
Anyway "Inframundo" I fixed it!!!
here's what i did, I ripped the movie with decrypter and the used ifoedit and it said it was NTSC but that it was 4:3, see:

So i changed it to this:

And it worked, now I can see the movie .
I'm gonna send an email to the distributors telling them about this (that is when I find their email address). Anyway, thanks to everyone who helped me, especially the one who said about the movie not beign flagged for widescreen, that's what led me to use ifoedit.
Thanks.