9.802kbps error 720X480, and no audio, after a rip.

[overloaded_ide]

Ok I have a Flipper with an OLD movie on each side. This is a comercail disk.

Using DVDshrink it shows the movie is about 4gig by itself, though only a normal length movie. My goal is to put both movies on one disk so I can label the disk and not be flipping it!

Ok I shrunk movie only in DVDSHRINK reauthor. I set compression to 50% to get about 2gigs for the first movie.

I went to Tmpgenc DVD Author and got the error about 9,802k bps being out of DVD standards. I click ignore and go to edit the clip and I have no sound! It does show sound is AC3 2 channel and the shrunk DVD does play great from the hardrive! Has the sound been left out to get the kbps to a level lower than 9,800??

And the main questions really are WHY would I have a really old movie on a DVD that is 9,802 kbps?? Is that before they set their own standards??
Heck this is a VHS quality DVD basically!!

And if after shrinking the DVD it is still 720X480 9,802kbps, then what was shrank to go from 4gig down to only 2 gig??
The DVD is now 2 gig on the hard drive, works perfect, and the video on the monitor is the same as playing from the disk. So far no noticeable quality loss after a 50% shrink. But I have not tried it on the TV yet of course, and the DVD was VHS quality to begin with so it never should have been 4gigs to start with!!

And what is my best option now to get the 2 movies onto one disk. Just do an analog capture of each at the correct settings I want, or ripp and re-encode then re-author? I am thinking just do a capture myself.
I never actaully tried to re-encode a DVD like this that actaully started as a DVD, nor have I done much with converting DVD to other formats yet like mpeg2 or AVI.

[jeremyp969]

It sounds like to me the compressed movie is 9802 kbps right? You said you opened the compressed movie in TMPgenc and it gave you that warning. I doubt the movie off the DVD was at that level.

The best way to do it with DVDShrink is to rip both sides to your hard drive using DVDDecrypter or even DVDShrink with no compression. Then do an open files on the first add the movie, do an open files on the second and add the movie and then have it do the compression for both at the same time.

[BJ_M]

the rate a mpeg reports is just header info and can have no actual bearing on what the real bit rate is ..

you can have a mpeg with 2000 bitrate be reported as 12000 very easily -- you can change these numbers yourself with restream .... doesn't change the actual bit rate - just the headers.

[overloaded_ide]

Thanks guys.

I think that header is the problem then, pretty sure I could not have this DVD at 9,800kbps and it still be only 2gigs

That bit rate is what tossed me for a loop. I have done alot of shrinking but never got that type of error, seldom get anytype.

Though funny thing is I was going to have the kid help me with a project on her computer this weekend (teach her some things and get some free labour) and when she tried to rip a DVD I had authored and burned before, DVDshrink gave an error it could not find the files on that disk. Power DVD played the disk fine on her system, Then I tried on my system and the same thing! Since this is a disk I made myself it is not protected anyway and I can do a direct file copy, but I was gonna shrink it a little at the same time. It plays fine in anything (disk and movie), I just need to re-edit it and make some changes. Why this one won't rip/copy with shrink I don't know.